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RockSim Virtual Rocket Contest #4
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Essence's Model Rocketry Reviews (EMRR) is finally getting around to introducing
our fourth "virtual" rocket contest. We are excited as these "virtual" contests have been an EMRR
innovation and we see no limits. This time, we want to encourage more participation and use the inspiration from a new
EAT kit. Therefore, welcome to our Newbie-Edge Tri-Roc "Virtual" Rocket
Contest.
Grab your copy of RockSim (or the Demo version) and build a rocket that meets the
requirements below and the "virtual flying" contest will take place on June 27, 2004.
Contest Requirements:
- RockSim Owners: Entry must be (3) RKT files (version 5+)
- RockSim DEMO Entries: Entry must include the
following:
- All the information from the Parts List
- A drawing of your fins
- Thickness of your fins (material is in Parts List)
- Location of your fins with reference to the rear of the rocket in inches
- Name your Rocket
- Contestants may only have (1) entry
- Contestants must be on EMRR's Announcement List to
be eligible
- 2% Bonus will be gained on each contest flight if you have never
participated before: "Newbie-Edge"
- 1% Bonus will be gained on each contest flight if you build, fly and
produce pictures of the rocket:
- (1) Picture of the rocket static
- (1) Picture of the rocket launching or descending
- Entries must be received by 6/26/2004.
- Contest will take place from 6/27 -
7/2.
CLICK HERE FOR Q A
CLICK HERE FOR Fine Print
RockSim Rocket Design Requirements:
- Rocket Design Specs:
- Rocket Top:
- Standardized. No changes allowed!
- Start with this Rocket Top configuration:
- Motor Configuration:
- Designer's choice (staged, cluster, or single)
- At least 1 Rocket Bottom must use a cluster
- Total Thrust allowed must be <81 Newton Seconds (e.g. single F motor, 4-D's,
1-E+2-D's, etc.)
- These are valid Motors and Curves (virtual3.eng)
(if you need assistance loading these, e-mail me)
- If you use a Booster, the following are allowable Booster Motors:
- Booster 24mm - C11-0, D12-0, E9-0
- Booster 18mm - C6-0 or B6-0
- Booster 13mm - A10-0
- Body Design:
- At least 1 Rocket Bottom must use a transition
- Fins:
- There must be 2 - 6 fins
- Fins can not be any thinner than 1/8" of an inch
- At least 1 Rocket Bottom must use two-sets of 2-6 fins per set
- RockSIM 7x asymmetrical fins are allowed
- Recovery:
- The recovery means must fit into the 3" x 1.5" "coupler".
(translation: parachute must be 24" or less)
- Parachute or Streamer may be used
- Landing speed must be < 15 feet/second vertical
- Materials must be standard weights that are in the Rocksim database
- Materials must be standard thicknesses that are in the Rocksim database
- Must include realistic recovery and launch lugs (motor hook is optional)
- NO CP Overrides
- NO Mass Overrides
- NO additional Mass Objects for adjusting weight and CP
- Allowed Mass Objects are realistically sized/weight shock cord, eye-screws, etc.
(but not added to the Rocket Top)
- Must have at least 1 caliber of stability (RockSim Based) when loaded with your
selected motor(s)
- Select the Rocket Bottom part colors that your would like to see posted
- RockSIM 7.04 decals and graphics are allowed (see
here - PDF)
- Specifics
- Rocket and Motor selection for Events #1, #2, and #3. These must
each use a different Rocket Bottom.
- Motor selection must match motor tube size, no adapters and no masking tape
allowed
- All motor tubes must have a motor assigned to them for each flight
- Rocket and Motor selection for Event #4
- Motor selection must match motor tube size, no adapters and no masking tape
allowed
- All motor tubes must have a motor assigned to them for each flight
- You must select your 48" rod angles, each being less than +/- 31 degrees,
for Event #4 (Drag Race) for three different wind conditions. Be sure to give the proper "plus" or
"minus" sign indication:
- 1) 2-7 mph some variability
- 2) 5-10 mph some variability
- 3) 7-12 mph some variability
Contest Events:
- Your rockets will participate in (5) events and will accumulate a total
score:
- Speed: Your first of three rockets will fly in RockSim 7
default conditions with your choice of motor configuration. The objective is to attain the Maximum Velocity possible.
- See Results
- Altitude: Your second of three rockets will fly in RockSim 7
default conditions with your choice of motor configuration. It will then fly with a "contest impulse motor
combination"*, a "contest mass-override"*, and in RockSim 7
default conditions. The objective is to have the
highest combined altitude and a safe landing within
the field. The placement score will be the Altitude (ft). - See Results
- Low Stress: Your third of three rockets will fly in RockSim 7
default conditions with your choice of motor configuration. The objective is to attain the lowest Velocity at Deployment
possible. - See Results
- The Drag Race: your rocket will compete in an all-rocket drag race with
and your choice of motor combination. All will fly at once in three races with
your selected launch rod angle. The flight must have an acceptable landing speed and
within the field. Placement will be based on 1) Fastest
to clear launch rail (sec) with 48" rod; 2) Longest time to landing (sec), and 3) Lowest Range
(closest to pad in feet). - See Results
- Eye-Appeal: your three rockets will be voted on to determine the best
looking and most creative "Tri-Roc" combination. The objective is to have your rocket "catch" the
eye of the beholder. - See Results
- DQ Conditions
- DQ Results
- No results for just that event (you will get 1 point in the placement
score)
- Lost rocket is only lost for that event
* NOTE: All "contest" settings and entries will not be
disclosed until all entries are in!
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- Submission Checklist
- (3) RockSIM RKT files from any version/demo
- Rocket Name (single name)
- Rocket and Motor selection for Contest #1, #2, and #3. These must
all be a different rocket.
- Rocket and Motor selection for Contest #4
- Launch Rod angles for #4
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Let the Games Begin!
NAME OF
ENTRANT |
NAME OF
ROCKET |
FILES |
Final
STANDING! |
#9 - Bill Krosney |
TriRoc-o-Soar-Us |
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1 |
Speed:
Length=17.5"
Weight=3.38 oz
Altitude:
Length=25.5"
Weight=3.51 oz
Low Stress:
Length=23.9"
Weight=3.67 oz
Newbie Bonus:
No - 2nd competition
Key Finishes:
Event #1 - Fastest by 25 fps
Event #3 - Nearly 0 fps |
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SPEED |
ALTITUDE |
LOW STRESS
DRAG RACE |
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EMRR Comments: I'd like to see Bill win the
choice of the Triatomic kit so he can finish it like this! How do you make paint do that? Well, it is a
"virtual" contest. |
#3 - Bob Cox |
The Many Tails of Zeus |
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2 |
Speed:
Length=19.7"
Weight=3.71 oz
Altitude:
Length=22.5"
Weight=3.46 oz
Low Stress:
Length=24.7"
Weight=4.93 oz
Newbie Bonus:
No - 3rd competition
Key Finishes:
Event #3 - Nearly 0 fps
Event #2 - Highest by 1,700ft
Drag Race #2 |
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SPEED
(Fast Tail) |
ALTITUDE
(High Tail) |
LOW STRESS
DRAG RACE
(Soft Tail) |
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EMRR Comments: First veteran competitor and
thinnest tailed rocket I have ever seen. Be sure to expand the pics to see some of his fin details. |
#10 - Bruce Levison |
Der BLU MAX |
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2 |
Speed:
Length=18.5"
Weight=3.81 oz
Altitude:
Length=19.1"
Weight=3.85 oz
Low Stress:
Length=23.5"
Weight=6.41 oz
Newbie Bonus:
No - 4th competition
Key Finishes:
Event #5 - Eye-Appeal running away!
Drag Race #1 |
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SPEED
DRAG RACE |
ALTITUDE |
LOW STRESS |
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EMRR Comments: Bruce is a master of RockSIM. No
one can deny that. He can make it sim many types of rockets and has wrote many articles on it. Okay, we can see that he
can now use the texture feature of 7.04... but can he turn theory into "virtual" practice? |
#7 - Scott Messina |
Quick Thinkin in Blue Skies!! |
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4 |
Speed:
Length=17"
Weight=3.8 oz
Altitude:
Length=23"
Weight=3.8 oz
Low Stress:
Length=26"
Weight=5.06 oz
Newbie Bonus:
Yes
RockSIM Demo Entry
Key Finishes:
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SPEED
DRAG RACE |
ALTITUDE |
LOW STRESS |
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EMRR Comments: I always appreciate a Demo
submission, because these folks have challenged to test without saving and then submit it to be "built" by
someone else. |
#4 - Frank Ross |
Ternary Phlyer |
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5 |
Speed:
Length=25.8"
Weight=4.4 oz
Altitude:
Length=22.5"
Weight=4.74 oz
Low Stress:
Length=30.5"
Weight=6.67 oz
Newbie Bonus:
No - 4th competition
Key Finishes:
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SPEED |
ALTITUDE |
LOW STRESS
DRAG RACE |
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EMRR Comments: First to utilize RockSIM 7.04's
decal feature and check out the wings! Very cool! |
#2 - Todd Mullin |
Troika |
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6 |
Speed:
Length=32.5"
Weight=7.84 oz
Altitude:
Length=25.4"
Weight=4.67 oz
Low Stress:
Length=30.5"
Weight=8.43 oz
Newbie Bonus:
Yes
Key Finishes:
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SPEED
(Need For Speed) |
ALTITUDE
DRAG RACE
(Mile High) |
LOW STRESS
(Mother's Little Helper) |
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EMRR Comments: Whoa! A three-stage Altitude
rocket. Rock(et) and Roll. Check out the 3D image of his Mother's Helper (Todd says think Rolling Stones when
considering the name). |
#8 - Joe Policy |
A Tail of Three Rockets |
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7 |
Speed:
Length=26"
Weight=5.08 oz
Altitude:
Length=19"
Weight=5.2 oz
Low Stress:
Length=17"
Weight=4.72 oz
Newbie Bonus:
No - 2nd competition
Key Finishes:
Drag Race #3 |
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SPEED
DRAG RACE |
ALTITUDE |
LOW STRESS |
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EMRR Comments: Doesn't the altitude look a lot
like a Screamin' Mimi. Will it "scream" past the competition? Joe's Low Stress also looks like something I
would enjoy building... colors and fin shape. |
#1 - Neil Thompson |
Rapier |
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8 |
Speed:
Length=25.1"
Weight=4.59 oz
Altitude:
Length=22.3"
Weight=4.29 oz
Low Stress:
Length=31.5"
Weight=6.89 oz
Newbie Bonus:
Yes
Key Finishes:
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SPEED |
ALTITUDE |
LOW STRESS
DRAG RACE |
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EMRR Comments: I always enjoy 1st entries, and in
this case from a new Virtual Rocket competitor! |
#5 - Chan Stevens |
Trip'ing the Light Fantastic |
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8 |
Speed:
Length=23.8"
Weight=3.37 oz
Altitude:
Length=26.6"
Weight=3.27 oz
Low Stress:
Length=23.5"
Weight=5.45 oz
Newbie Bonus:
No - 4th competition
Key Finishes:
Drag Race #3 |
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SPEED
DRAG RACE |
ALTITUDE |
LOW STRESS |
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EMRR Comments: Chan calls the Speed rocket the
"virtual-cigar". Does it smoke the competition? We'll see. I love the looks of his Low Stress entry.
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#11 - Clive Davis |
Diminished Fifth |
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10 |
Speed:
Length=22.8"
Weight=3.77 oz
Altitude:
Length=25.5"
Weight=4.12 oz
Low Stress:
Length=26.9"
Weight=5.47 oz
Newbie Bonus:
No - 4th competition
Key Finishes:
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SPEED
DRAG RACE |
ALTITUDE |
LOW STRESS |
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EMRR Comments: Clive said, "Not quite sure
if I had a chance to test all kinds of variables, but I'm sending it in anyhow." Is this a preparatory excuse, or
a way of making the competitors over confident? Hmmmm? |
#6 - Bill Toner |
Triple Threat |
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11 |
Speed:
Length=26"
Weight=6.72 oz
Altitude:
Length=20.4"
Weight=6.85 oz
Low Stress:
Length=30.5"
Weight=5.86 oz
Newbie Bonus:
Yes
Key Finishes:
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SPEED |
ALTITUDE |
LOW STRESS
DRAG RACE |
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EMRR Comments: New-comer, Bill Toner, went with
the red-white-blue theme and said he learned a lot about RockSIM through this contest. Bill... think about
composites. |
EVENT #1:
Speed: Your first of three rockets will fly in RockSim 7
default conditions with your choice of motor configuration. The objective is to attain the Maximum Velocity
possible.
- Comments: The F50 was clearly the motor of choice, as
long as the design supported it. Look how close the top 5 were to each other!
ID |
Rocketeer |
Rocket Name |
Motor(s) |
Velocity (fps) |
w/Bonus |
P
O
I
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T
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1 |
Neil Thompson |
Rapier |
3x D21-7 |
817.41 |
833.76 |
4 |
2 |
Todd Mullin |
Troika |
F50-9 |
738.22 |
752.98 |
3 |
3 |
Bob Cox |
The Many Tails of Zeus |
F50-9 |
1076.60 |
1076.60 |
9 |
4 |
Frank Ross |
Ternary Phlyer |
F50-6 |
1011.69 |
1011.69 |
7 |
5 |
Chan Stevens |
Trip'ing the Light Fantastic |
F39-9 |
856.08 |
856.08 |
6 |
6 |
Bill Toner |
Triple Threat |
4x D12-5 |
488.50 |
498.27 |
1 |
7 |
Scott Messina |
Quick Thinkin' |
F50-9 |
1001.78 |
1021.82 |
8 |
8 |
Joe Policy |
A Tail of Three Rockets |
2x E30-7 |
842.14 |
842.14 |
5 |
9 |
Bill Krosney |
TriRoc-o-Soar-Us |
F50-9 |
1110.10 |
1110.10 |
11 |
10 |
Bruce Levison |
Der BLU MAX |
F50-6 |
1084.16 |
1084.16 |
10 |
11 |
Clive Davis |
Diminished Fifth |
F24-7 |
731.78 |
731.78 |
2 |
EVENT #2:
Altitude: Your second of three rockets will fly in RockSim 7
default conditions with your choice of motor configuration. It will then fly with a "contest impulse motor
combination"*, a "contest mass-override"*, and in RockSim 7
default conditions. The objective is to have the
highest combined altitude and a safe landing within
the field. The placement score will be the Altitude (ft).
- Comments: I think we can all see what Bob worked on the
most. Interestingly, the setting to 8oz and using some created "F" motors didn't move the results around from
the "as submitted" design.
ID |
Rocketeer |
Rocket Name |
Max Alt |
Max Alt
(8 oz) |
Total |
w/Bonus |
P
O
I
N
T
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1 |
Neil Thompson |
Rapier |
5,655 |
4,292 |
9,947 |
10,146 |
8 |
2 |
Todd Mullin |
Troika |
5,078 |
4,756 |
9,834 |
10,031 |
7 |
3 |
Bob Cox |
The Many Tails of Zeus |
6,834 |
5,484 |
12,318 |
12,318 |
11 |
4 |
Frank Ross |
Ternary Phlyer |
3,361 |
2,796 |
6,157 |
6,157 |
3 |
5 |
Chan Stevens |
Trip'ing the Light Fantastic |
4,071 |
4,018 |
8,089 |
8,089 |
6 |
6 |
Bill Toner |
Triple Threat |
1,726 |
2,831 |
4,557 |
4,648 |
1 |
7 |
Scott Messina |
Quick Thinkin' |
3,185 |
3,489 |
6,673 |
6,807 |
4 |
8 |
Joe Policy |
A Tail of Three Rockets |
2,894 |
3,052 |
5,946 |
5,946 |
2 |
9 |
Bill Krosney |
TriRoc-o-Soar-Us |
5,803 |
4,694 |
10,496 |
10,496 |
9 |
10 |
Bruce Levison |
Der BLU MAX |
6,053 |
4,551 |
10,604 |
10,604 |
10 |
11 |
Clive Davis |
Diminished Fifth |
3,023 |
4,740 |
7,763 |
7,763 |
5 |
EVENT #3:
Speed: Your first of three rockets will fly in RockSim 7
default conditions with your choice of motor configuration. The objective is to attain the Maximum Velocity
possible.
- Comments: Can you say "perfect"? Look at Bill's
and Bob's. It is interesting that 5 of the 11 used their cluster rocket for this contest.
ID |
Rocketeer |
Rocket Name |
Motor(s) |
Deployment Speed (fps) |
w/Bonus |
P
O
I
N
T
S |
1 |
Neil Thompson |
Rapier |
C11-3 |
2.28 |
2.23 |
7 |
2 |
Todd Mullin |
Troika |
3x 1/2A3-2 + 2x A3-2 |
0.82 |
0.80 |
9 |
3 |
Bob Cox |
The Many Tails of Zeus |
4x 1/2A6-2 |
0.05 |
0.05 |
10 |
4 |
Frank Ross |
Ternary Phlyer |
C11-3 |
3.73 |
3.73 |
6 |
5 |
Chan Stevens |
Trip'ing the Light Fantastic |
3x A8-3 |
7.96 |
7.96 |
3 |
6 |
Bill Toner |
Triple Threat |
D12-5 |
5.47 |
5.36 |
4 |
7 |
Scott Messina |
Quick Thinkin' |
F50-9 |
1.56 |
1.53 |
8 |
8 |
Joe Policy |
A Tail of Three Rockets |
F39-9 |
4.56 |
4.56 |
5 |
9 |
Bill Krosney |
TriRoc-o-Soar-Us |
3x 1/2A6-2 |
0.03 |
0.03 |
11 |
10 |
Bruce Levison |
Der BLU MAX |
2x D12-0 to 2x D7-7 |
DQ - landing speed
(would have been ~9 fps) |
DQ |
1 |
11 |
Clive Davis |
Diminished Fifth |
E9-6 |
12.25 |
12.25 |
2 |
EVENT #4:
The Drag Race: your rocket will compete in an all-rocket drag race with and your
choice of motor combination. All will fly at once in three races with your selected
launch rod angle. The flight must have an acceptable landing speed and
within the field. Placement will be based on 1) Fastest
to clear launch rail (sec) with 48" rod; 2) Longest time to landing (sec), and 3) Lowest Range
(closest to pad in feet).
- Comments: Look above (below for picture) at everyone's
three rockets and what they selected for the Drag Race. Five picked their Speed rocket, one picked his Altitude rocket,
and five picked their Low Stress rocket. Especially notable is Frank Ross' Low Stress winged-rocket!
Drag #1:
ID |
Rocketeer |
Rocket Name |
Time Off Rod |
RNK |
Time to Land |
RNK |
Closest |
RNK |
DQ |
P
O
I
N
T
S |
1 |
Neil Thompson |
Rapier |
0.280 |
4 |
89.281 |
2 |
783.684 |
5 |
|
11 |
2 |
Todd Mullin |
Troika |
0.425 |
1 |
460.846 |
11 |
3822.432 |
1 |
|
13 |
3 |
Bob Cox |
The Many Tails of Zeus |
0.115 |
10 |
176.171 |
6 |
193.258 |
7 |
|
23 |
4 |
Frank Ross |
Ternary Phlyer |
0.329 |
2 |
16.965 |
1 |
122.795 |
8 |
|
11 |
5 |
Chan Stevens |
Trip'ing the Light Fantastic |
0.138 |
7 |
224.965 |
8 |
1637.707 |
4 |
|
19 |
6 |
Bill Toner |
Triple Threat |
0.307 |
3 |
103.036 |
3 |
37.312 |
10 |
|
16 |
7 |
Scott Messina |
Quick Thinkin' |
0.274 |
5 |
400.831 |
10 |
2550.062 |
2 |
|
17 |
8 |
Joe Policy |
A Tail of Three Rockets |
0.130 |
8 |
165.764 |
4 |
473.351 |
6 |
|
18 |
9 |
Bill Krosney |
TriRoc-o-Soar-Us |
0.141 |
6 |
166.542 |
5 |
106.763 |
9 |
|
20 |
10 |
Bruce Levison |
Der BLU MAX |
0.104 |
11 |
214.432 |
7 |
1.706 |
11 |
|
29 |
11 |
Clive Davis |
Diminished Fifth |
0.125 |
9 |
227.879 |
9 |
2515.905 |
3 |
|
21 |
Drag #2:
ID |
Rocketeer |
Rocket Name |
Time Off Rod |
RNK |
Time to Land |
RNK |
Closest |
RNK |
DQ |
P
O
I
N
T
S |
1 |
Neil Thompson |
Rapier |
|
1 |
|
1 |
|
1 |
Landing (Speed) |
3 |
2 |
Todd Mullin |
Troika |
|
1 |
|
1 |
|
1 |
Lost (Range) |
3 |
3 |
Bob Cox |
The Many Tails of Zeus |
0.125 |
11 |
107.109 |
6 |
985.034 |
8 |
|
25 |
4 |
Frank Ross |
Ternary Phlyer |
0.357 |
4 |
16.615 |
4 |
143.484 |
11 |
|
19 |
5 |
Chan Stevens |
Trip'ing the Light Fantastic |
0.154 |
9 |
264.166 |
10 |
3976.815 |
5 |
|
24 |
6 |
Bill Toner |
Triple Threat |
0.310 |
5 |
83.944 |
5 |
862.784 |
9 |
|
19 |
7 |
Scott Messina |
Quick Thinkin' |
0.220 |
7 |
363.860 |
11 |
4244.358 |
4 |
|
22 |
8 |
Joe Policy |
A Tail of Three Rockets |
0.133 |
10 |
150.899 |
7 |
1541.176 |
7 |
|
24 |
9 |
Bill Krosney |
TriRoc-o-Soar-Us |
0.235 |
6 |
175.105 |
8 |
447.391 |
10 |
|
24 |
10 |
Bruce Levison |
Der BLU MAX |
0.159 |
8 |
204.454 |
9 |
1879.687 |
6 |
|
23 |
11 |
Clive Davis |
Diminished Fifth |
|
1 |
|
1 |
|
1 |
Lost (Range) |
3 |
Drag #3:
ID |
Rocketeer |
Rocket Name |
Time Off Rod |
RNK |
Time to Land |
RNK |
Closest |
RNK |
DQ |
P
O
I
N
T
S |
1 |
Neil Thompson |
Rapier |
0.300 |
5 |
84.937 |
7 |
1511.975 |
6 |
|
18 |
2 |
Todd Mullin |
Troika |
|
1 |
|
1 |
|
1 |
Lost (Range) |
3 |
3 |
Bob Cox |
The Many Tails of Zeus |
0.164 |
9 |
84.864 |
6 |
848.685 |
7 |
|
22 |
4 |
Frank Ross |
Ternary Phlyer |
0.360 |
3 |
16.289 |
4 |
196.512 |
10 |
|
17 |
5 |
Chan Stevens |
Trip'ing the Light Fantastic |
0.139 |
11 |
230.296 |
10 |
4251.929 |
3 |
|
24 |
6 |
Bill Toner |
Triple Threat |
0.312 |
4 |
68.391 |
5 |
654.829 |
9 |
|
18 |
7 |
Scott Messina |
Quick Thinkin' |
0.295 |
6 |
281.478 |
11 |
3261.603 |
5 |
|
22 |
8 |
Joe Policy |
A Tail of Three Rockets |
0.198 |
8 |
110.369 |
8 |
801.109 |
8 |
|
24 |
9 |
Bill Krosney |
TriRoc-o-Soar-Us |
0.256 |
7 |
6.211 |
3 |
49.705 |
11 |
|
21 |
10 |
Bruce Levison |
Der BLU MAX |
0.155 |
10 |
229.511 |
9 |
3311.434 |
4 |
|
23 |
11 |
Clive Davis |
Diminished Fifth |
|
1 |
|
1 |
|
1 |
Lost (Range) |
3 |
EVENT #5:
Eye-Appeal: your three rockets will be voted on to determine the best looking and most creative
"Tri-Roc" combination. The objective is to have your rocket "catch" the eye of the beholder.
- Comments: The voting was really interesting here, but in
the end the winner was the one that did the most with the 7.04 Decal feature. Hopefully manufacturers will discern the
"eye-appeal" decals add and start putting them in their kits.
ID |
Rocketeer |
Rocket Name |
Voting
Score |
P
O
I
N
T
S |
1 |
Neil Thompson |
Rapier |
10 |
4 |
2 |
Todd Mullin |
Troika |
18 |
8 |
3 |
Bob Cox |
The Many Tails of Zeus |
9 |
3* |
4 |
Frank Ross |
Ternary Phlyer |
29 |
10 |
5 |
Chan Stevens |
Trip'ing the Light Fantastic |
9 |
2* |
6 |
Bill Toner |
Triple Threat |
7 |
1 |
7 |
Scott Messina |
Quick Thinkin' |
14 |
6 |
8 |
Joe Policy |
A Tail of Three Rockets |
15 |
7 |
9 |
Bill Krosney |
TriRoc-o-Soar-Us |
19 |
9 |
10 |
Bruce Levison |
Der BLU MAX |
53 |
11 |
11 |
Clive Davis |
Diminished Fifth |
13 |
5 |
* Voting used the Top Three method and the ranking
to resolve ties. The only tie was Cox and Stevens and the ranking placed Cox (161) ahead of Stevens (181). Lower score
is better. For reference Levison had 71 in the ranking. OVERALL:
- Comments: Everything is now FINAL. Fun contest!
More ideas for my EAT Triatomic.
- 40% of the contestants were Newbies, so that is good and
positive. The bonus didn't do much for them so I'll need to work on that for other contests. Lost a bunch of
contestants from other contests. Perhaps they'll be back along with our Newbies in the next contest.
- Oh, yes, the next contest will be run by Bob Cox (that way I can
compete!) I'm taking voluteers for the running the contest after that. It will be hosted on EMRR and I'll still take
care of all the web-stuff.
ID |
Rocketeer |
Rocket Name |
Event
#1 |
Event
#2 |
Event
#3 |
Event
#5 |
Sub-
Tot |
Pre-Drag
Place |
Drag
Tot |
Drag
Pts |
Contest
Total
Points |
Final
Place |
1 |
Neil Thompson |
Rapier |
4 |
8 |
7 |
4 |
23 |
7 |
32 |
3 |
26 |
8 |
2 |
Todd Mullin |
Troika |
3 |
7 |
9 |
8 |
27 |
4 |
19 |
1 |
28 |
6 |
3 |
Bob Cox |
The Many Tails of Zeus |
9 |
11 |
10 |
3 |
33 |
2 |
70 |
10 |
43 |
2 |
4 |
Frank Ross |
Ternary Phlyer |
7 |
3 |
6 |
10 |
26 |
5 |
47 |
4 |
30 |
5 |
5 |
Chan Stevens |
Trip'ing the Light Fantastic |
6 |
6 |
3 |
2 |
17 |
9 |
67 |
9 |
26 |
8 |
6 |
Bill Toner |
Triple Threat |
1 |
1 |
4 |
1 |
7 |
11 |
53 |
5 |
12 |
11 |
7 |
Scott Messina |
Quick Thinkin' |
8 |
4 |
8 |
6 |
26 |
5 |
61 |
6 |
32 |
4 |
8 |
Joe Policy |
A Tail of Three Rockets |
5 |
2 |
5 |
7 |
19 |
8 |
66 |
8 |
27 |
7 |
9 |
Bill Krosney |
TriRoc-o-Soar-Us |
11 |
9 |
11 |
9 |
40 |
1 |
65 |
7 |
47 |
1 |
10 |
Bruce Levison |
Der BLU MAX |
10 |
10 |
1 |
11 |
32 |
3 |
75 |
11 |
43 |
2 |
11 |
Clive Davis |
Diminished Fifth |
2 |
5 |
2 |
5 |
14 |
10 |
27 |
2 |
16 |
10 |
QA
- How does this Bonus thing work?
- The 1% (or 2%) bonus improves your virtual flights by 1%. For example if you
fly to 1540 feet, you will be recorded at 1555 feet. Yes, not much, but we suspect some very close competition.
- If we submit a design and it doesn't qualify for some reason, are we allowed
to rework the design and resubmit or even submit a new design?
- Yes, either, both...we will review them and let you know.
- How are Contest Points scored?
- Each of the first 3 events have a "placement score" described. That
placement score will then be reversed ranked by the total number of entries. This will give the maximum number of
points to the winner in the event. For example, if there are (4) entries and in contest #2 (maximum altitude) and entry
#1 gets 800 feet, #2 810 feet, #3 750 feet and #4 950 feet. Then the scores will be 2 points for #3, 3 points for #1, 1
point for #2 and 4 points for #4.
- How's this Drag Race work?
- I guess the best way to answer, is to show you. Here is "Virtual"
Contest #3's - here
- You say materials must be those listed in RockSim ... can I build/design any
part using those materials?
- Yes, you may, except the body tubes which must come from the database. Other
parts: this does not imply that you have to take the part from the database.
- For the competition conditions the Model loss: at 25% seems rather high. .
.
- Launch site diameter:- This is the diameter of the launch site. Any
rockets landing within this circle are not considered lost.<BR>Max. model drift range: - This specifies
the maximum drift range beyond the outside of the Launch site diameter. Any rockets that drift beyond this range are
considered lost.
Model loss- This is the percent chance of a model falling outside the Launch site diameter being lost.
So the field size is 4000 feet, with an extra 1000 feet drift range. In that 1000 feet drift range there is a 25%
change of losing the rocket. Outside of that 1000 foot drift range, in others words outside of 5000 feet, the rocket is
considered lost. So going for very, very high is one thing, but ensuring your rocket comes back is more
important.
- NOTE: If you have 7.00 - 7.01 this feature has a bug in it. So don't get
frustrated with the results. Apogee will has corrected this. You should work hard to keep it within the range of the
field.
- You also have an ignition delay specified but do not include igniter
variability for Drag Races, why did you do that?
- It is a default, but unless the igniter box is checked the delay time is not
activated.
- Aren't the RockSim 5 and 6 users going to be upset about not being able to
use the RockSim 7 variations?
- The point here is that everyone can compete. Their submissions will be converted
to RS 7 for the competitions. They will miss out on some testing and the asymmetrical fin capability, but like in life,
some compete with better training facilities than others... doesn't mean better facilities make for winners.
- I've downloaded the virtual3.eng file. How do I get RockSim to ONLY use
those motors and ignore the other motors or other .eng files?
- Put the ENG file in the DATA directory for RockSIM
- Run Compile Engine program
- Select only virtual3.eng and ---> move it over
- Click Compile
- Start RockSIM
- NO CP or Mass overrides. But... are the CP and mass overrides present for
database objects OK? i.e. I select an Estes NC, or eye-hook that has entered a CP and mass override, is that
OK?
- In staging composite motors for the contest file, does one need to include
"virtual electronics," i.e. staging timers?
- Delayed Ignition: Are we allowed to use non-zero ignition delays (air
starts)?
- Drag coefficient: Should we use the default Cd (0.75 for sustainer, 0.78 and
0.80 for boosters), or should we calculate Cd at simulation time?
- Calculate at Simulation Time. Also, it will be set to "Use the Rocksim
Simulation equation in simulations".
- The "Default conditions show a 36" launch rod, but the directions
show 48". Which one are you planning to use?
- 36" for all except Event #4, which will be 48"
- "The rocket top is standardized, no changes allowed." However, if I
am building the rocket bottom of a smaller diameter, can I mount my launch lug on the rocket top?
- "At least 1 Rocket Bottom must use two-sets of 2-6 fins per set".
Does that mean 'per stage'? If for example one of my designs is a two-stage bottom (i.e. booster and sustainer), and
each has a set of fins, does that satisify the "Rocket Bottom must use two fin-sets" design
criteria?
The winners agree to write a kit review using
the format guidelines included in EMRR's site. Previous winners are eligible for future Rocket Give-Away. EMRR assumes
no responsibility for the kit once it leaves our location. EMRR is not liable for any damages or injury caused by the
assembly or use of the kit.
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