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Hefty® Serve 'n Store® Flying Saucer
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SPECS: 2.5" x 9" - 35 grams
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(by Art Applewhite [Who's Who Page] - 01/26/06) (Scratch) Hefty® Serve 'n Store® Flying Saucer

Brief:
A well known trash bag and paper plate maker has taken model rocket construction to a whole new level of simplicity and low cost. This may not be what the folks at Pactiv Corporation had in mind when they designed their Hefty® Serve 'n Store® Everyday plates with interlocking rims but once a "true" rocketeer sees them in the proper light, it becomes obvious what they are really made for and it ain't leftovers.

Construction:
There are only 2 parts to this flying saucer shaped rocket: a Top and a Bottom. Both parts are made from Serve 'n Store® Everyday 9 inch (actually they are 8.875") plates. These are available at most grocery stores in packs of 24 for around $2.00. This works out to less than 17 cents per rocket. Only the Serve 'n (Scratch) Hefty® Serve 'n Store® Flying Saucer Store® Everyday type of plates, as pictured above, should be used. These are the white ones and come in two sizes, 9 inch and 10 inch. The 9 inch plates fit over the 24 ounce bowls of the Everyday brand. The Everyday brand plates and bowls are thicker, stronger and more impact-resistant than the red Party brand. They interlock so well that no glue is required to hold the rocket together. The photos in this article are for the 24mm motor version of the flying saucer, but the 18mm version is identical except for the size of the Motor Holes.

Start by trimming off the rim, where it starts to turn down, on one (and only one) of the plates with a pair of scissors. This plate will become the Top. Trimming the rim off creates a more aerodynamic shape in the finished rocket.

(Scratch) Hefty® Serve 'n Store® Flying Saucer Next mark the hole for the motor in the center of the plate using a spent 24mm motor and a pencil. The Hefty® logo is in the center of the plate and the letter "f" is in the center of the logo. You should be able to use the logo as a guide and "eyeball" it close enough. Draw around the base of the motor with the pencil. Make sure the base of the motor is not flared out from use. Cut out the Motor Hole in the Top with a sharp, craft knife. An X-Acto® knife with a new #11 blade works best here. Stay inside the line so that the motor will fit tightly in the Motor Hole. After you cut the Motor Hole, test fit a motor into it. If the Motor Hole is too large for the motor to fit tightly then the rocket will not be safe to fly. For safety's sake, discard the plate and start over.

(Scratch) Hefty® Serve 'n Store® Flying Saucer(Scratch) Hefty® Serve 'n Store® Flying Saucer

Place the Top inside the other plate and mark the Motor Hole and Launch Rod Hole with a pencil. Make sure the "teeth" of the interlocking rims of the two plates are offset from each other. This will ensure that when the Top is flipped over and interlocked with the Bottom the launch rod holes will line up straight. Cut out the Motor Hole and punch out Launch Rod Hole in the Bottom. Interlock the Top to the Bottom with the Launch Rod Holes lined up. When fully interlocked, the two parts should hold together well enough that no glue is required. This is a good thing because most glues, including super glue, do not form a good bond to the Polypropylene plastic the plates are made of.

(Scratch) Hefty® Serve 'n Store® Flying Saucer(Scratch) Hefty® Serve 'n Store® Flying Saucer

A more details about this rocket and variations on the theme are available at http://www.artapplewhite.com/sns.html

Finishing:
You may wish to paint the completed flying saucer. The solvents used in most paints will not harm the plates but there are many paints that will not stick very well to it either. It is always a good idea to do a spot test first, perhaps on the inside surface of one of the plates. Sharpie® pens will work reasonably well if you allow extra drying time for the ink. Krylon makes a paint called "Fusion" specifically for plastics. This may be the best paint for these rockets.

Flight:
Recommended motors:

18mm version: C6-0 and C6-3.

24mm version: C11-0, C11-3, D11-P, D12-0, D12-3, E9-P, and E9-4.

These rockets may fly well on Aerotech Single Use and Reloadable motors but due to burn bans in Texas, I haven't had the opportunity to try them yet.

Make a thrust ring around the base of the motor with masking tape. It should be 1/4" wide and at least 4 complete wraps of tape thick. Insert the motor into the Motor Hole in the Bottom. If the fit is very tight, then use a twisting motion to get the motor into the hole. Be careful not to rip the plastic around the Motor Hole. If the fit is not tight, don't fly the rocket because the motor will not be properly held in place and may separate from the rocket at a bad time.

Support the rocket at least 6 inches above the blast deflector to prevent the bottom from being melted by the hot rocket motor exhaust.

Test flights of this rocket have been flawless so far. An 18mm version was flown twice with C6-3 motors. The boost was straight and low. A 24mm version was flown once on a C11-0 motor with same results as the previous flights. Future flights using more powerful (D, E and F) motors are planned once the burn ban is lifted in Kerr County, Texas.

(Scratch) Hefty® Serve 'n Store® Flying Saucer

Recovery:
The descent was very gentle. Each time, the rocket was recovered with no damage.

Summary:
PROs: Low cost. Quick and easy to construct from readily available materials and tools. Very easy to prepare for flight. Flys straight and lands close to the launch pad. Difficult to lose or get stuck in trees or power lines. Ultra reliable, nearly foolproof aerobrake recovery.

CONs: Low and slow flights (this could be a pro for folk with small flying fields). Requires some skill with a sharp knife.

Don't "overbuild" this rocket. It is safe "as is" and will provide many enjoyable flights at very little cost and effort.

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SPECIFIC ROCKET TIP:
09/06 - "Art wrote, 'Make a thrust ring around the base of the motor with masking tape.' Don't neglect that step! My motor holes were nice and tight, so I thought the friction fit would be sufficient. It wasn't. As soon as the saucer cleared the launch rod, the D12-3 flew right out of it and headed into the stratosphere. The plastic plates separated and both were a little scorched, but neither was melted and I was able to put them back together with no problems. I've always used a masking tape thrust ring in the past and have had no problems with this rocket. Definitely user error in this case. The Serve 'N Store saucer is still the best bang for your quarter." (M.J.W. )

SPECIFIC ROCKET TIP:
08/06 - "A minor construction tip. As mentioned in the instructions, you need to cut the rim from the plate that will form the top of the rocket. The plate has a vertical lip just inside the rim, and you can use this as a knife guide. Lay the plate upside down on a cutting board, stick your knife blade through the plate next to the vertical lip, and keep your knife blade vertical. The plate material is soft enough that you can hold your knife in one place and rotate the plate to make the cut. If you use very gently pressure, you can keep the vertical lip of the plate up against the knife blade and get a perfect cut all the way around the plate." (M.J.W. )

[Enter Flight Log]
Date Name Motor Ejection/
Altitude
Wind Notes
01-28-2006 Art Applewhite Est SU D11-P None - Tumble 5-10 mph winds Event: Hill Country Rocketeers, NAR#671 Monthly Launch
- Straight Boost, landed close to the pad
01-28-2006 Art Applewhite Est SU E9-P None - Tumble 5-10 mph winds Event: Hill Country Rocketeers, NAR#671 Monthly Launch
- Another good flight
01-28-2006 Art Applewhite AT EconoJet F21-8 None - Tumble 5-10 mph winds Event: Hill Country Rocketeers, NAR#671 Monthly Launch
- Fast boost, gentle recovery
01-28-2006 Art Applewhite AT EconoJet F20-7 None - Tumble 5-10 mph winds Event: Hill Country Rocketeers, NAR#671 Monthly Launch
- 29mm version, excellent flight
01-28-2006 Art Applewhite AT SU G80-10 None - Tumble 5-10 mph winds Event: Hill Country Rocketeers, NAR#671 Monthly Launch
- 29mm version, very fast boost and gentle recovery close to the pad
01-28-2006 Art Applewhite Est SU C11-0 None - Tumble 5-10 mph winds Event: Hill Country Rocketeers, NAR#671 Monthly Launch
- 24mm version, Good boost, medium height, slow descent, recovered close to the pad
01-28-2006 Art Applewhite Est SU E9-P None - Tumble 5-10 mph winds Event: Hill Country Rocketeers, NAR#671 Monthly Launch
- 24mm version
01-28-2006 Art Applewhite AT RMS G64-10 None - Tumble 5-10 mph winds Event: Hill Country Rocketeers, NAR#671 Monthly Launch
- 29mm version, Flys well on reloads.
01-28-2006 Art Applewhite Ellis SU G20-3 None - Tumble 5-10 mph winds Event: Hill Country Rocketeers, NAR#671 Monthly Launch
- Very long, regressive burn. Highest altitude flight of the day.
04-28-2007 Tom Benson Est SU C11-3 Very Late 5-10 mph winds - Perfect rocket for a gusty day on a muddy field. Low altitude flight, maybe 40 ft. Ejection charge went off just before it hit the ground; suggest a larger motor or shorter delay.
04-28-2007 Tom Benson Est SU C6-0 None - Tumble 5-10 mph winds - Nice flight. Not as loud as a C11 but a longer burn and it got to the same height.
03-29-2008 Tom Benson Est SU C6-0 None - Tumble 10+ mph winds - Worked great in the gusty wind. Slow. Noisy. Smoky. Stable. Fun.
01-31-2006 John Bowles Est SU C6-3 Very Late 0-5 mph winds - Good first flight, the airflow around the saucer seems to cause the delay to billow out to the width of the plates - neat effect.
01-31-2006 John Bowles Est SU C6-3 Very Late 0-5 mph winds - Another good flight. Bounced off garage roof and landed in a large puddle of water. After a run under the sink its as good as new.
02-04-2006 Will Marchant Est SU D11-P Didn't Record Didn't Record Event: NOVAAR
- 10 inch plates with 29mm motor mount. Nice flight. Some coning near apogee.
08-12-2006 Ed Scientist Est SU D12-0 None - Tumble 0-5 mph winds Earache my Eye - WOOOHOOOO. Man alive..well it sure didnt go straight as I expected. It kinda twirled reminded me of the corkscrew. Tumbled end over end for a soft landing. Good height. These are the 10 inch plates.
08-22-2006 Ed Scientist Est SU C6-0 None - Tumble 0-5 mph winds - Great flight on this another 10 inch plate. I really dont understand why it is said a C engine wont work? Perfect nice flight not real high but not very low either. Wonderful cant wait till next time.
08-19-2006 Matt Wedel Est SU D12-3 Very Late
(~100 ft)
5-10 mph winds - Beautiful, noisy, straight flight. Turned very slightly into the wind, ejected at about 20 feet off the ground, landed gently within 30 feet of the pad.
08-19-2006 Matt Wedel Est SU D12-3 Very Late
(~100 ft)
5-10 mph winds - Another beautiful flight. Same characteristics as before.
08-19-2006 Matt Wedel Est SU D12-3 Very Late
(~100 ft)
10+ mph winds - Launched in stiff breeze. 3FNCs weathercocked badly, but saucer boosted straight and slightly into the wind. At burnout, flipped on its side and came in fast like a frisbee. Ejection right after landing. Landed within 5 feet of launch controller!
   

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