(08/21/99) The Magnelite kit
simply consists of two containers. The and the pyrogen. The oxidizer
must be combined with the in order to make the igniters. You will also
need some RocketFlite ignitor wires which come in a variety of lengths
(16", 32", 48", 64"). CONSTRUCTION:
The instructions are on a single sheet and straight
forward. These ignitors are geared toward "H"+ motors, however, they
can fit into "F" and "G" motors too. In fact, I could get
RocketFlite's ignitors to fit in anything with a 28 nozzle and
bigger. The instructions also describe a method of doubling over the ignitor
wire before dipping, thereby getting a large amount of pyrogen to ensure
ignition of your larger motors.
RocketFlite ignitor wires are AWG 22 solid zip wire with
a very thin wire bridge soldered into place. They are then wound into a very
easy bundle that actually aids in the dipping and drying process.
The process is very, very easy! I dipped 48 ignitors in
15 minutes! No wires to strip. Just dip, tap, set to dry. The pyrogen's
consistency is excellent. Very smooth and it adheres to the wire very nicely.
Truly an excellent and easy dipping process.
As I mentioned, the finished tips would not fit
into my smaller 24mm nozzles. When asked about it, RocketFlite expressed
that they had just recently found a source for the smaller diameter wires.
"This new size is half the diameter of what we are currently using. We
will be using this new lead wire to make our new ML-12 which should fit most E
motors on up . . . I hope to have this product available by the end
of next month. We do a lot of testing before we release our products to the
consumer. "
I am looking forward to this but in the mean time, I took
some 30 gauge wire and my IgnitorMan Conductive
and followed their procedure, substituting Magnelite pyrogen over
IgnitorMan's pyrogen. This made some nice looking and narrow ignitors.
Overall, for CONSTRUCTION I would rate
this kit
5
points. The Pyrogen is easy to mix and with the ignitor wires from
RocketFlite you can make these things so fast.
FLIGHT/RECOVERY:
RocketFlite says,
"This highly reliable is great for all your motor
needs. Because of the type of binder we use and our new reformulated
mixture, it will reliably fire every time - even on the most humid of days.
Once ignited, the pyrogen burns for approximately one second at a temperature
around 6,400 degrees Fahrenheit!" This is their picture since I didn't
catch one myself.
Their web site states, "Peak amp requirement for
successful ignition is 5 to 6 amps with a minimum amperage requirement of 2.6
amps for 118ms. This electric match can be instantly fired using any
Hi-Capacity 9 volt rechargeable ni-cad battery (Radio Shack part#
23-299)." I use the Estes Command Controller with two 7.2V batteries
for a 14.4V system.
I have used 5 of these igniters on various 29mm reloads
and 6 of the ones made with IgnitorMan Conductive Primer on 24mm reloads. The 5
on 29mm motors all light first time. I had trouble with one on a 24mm motor. It
just wouldn't ignite the little Black Jack, however, I launched my three 24mm
cluster THOY Snipe and all three fired perfectly!
I had a friend test out some of the ignitors and he
reported back, "Seems I used maybe 10 of those ignitors out of which 1
didn't light and 1 did, but failed to ignite a G75 black jack. More pyrogen
perhaps? I don't know. They seem similar to the Ignitorman product which I've
used w/100% success (but I dip the pyrogen rather heavily)." Indeed,
when I dipped these I was trying to make them as narrow as possible, so these
couple of failures could have been from a lack of pyrogen.
Another friend tested them indicating, "They all
lit and were reliable. In fact, I loaned one to someone to light his level 1
cert motor when his copperhead failed. I used them on my GTX taking off with
tons of smoke on twin G33 smoky reloads. Also the big green Kiss Me I'm not
Irish and my LOC 4 29SS on twin 29mm motors ignited successfully. I plan to try
them on a 4-G rocket I'm expecting to get from AAA Model Aviation fuels this
week. Also, they will fire off my clusters, 5 Flavors and Kiss Me I ain't
Irish. I'm also working on using them to clusters with the help on an
Adept stager, namely, the ES231."
Rocketflite has just reported to us, "We have
changed the formula since that last batch. It seems when more than four
igniters were being used at once it taxed the ignition system so hard that one
or two of the electric matches failed to ignite! We have since changed the
formula which resulted in a much lower starting temperature. Once cured you can
set this stuff off with a 40 watt soldering iron. Ignition takes place at 502
degrees F instead of 1190 degrees F. We have no control over the types of
launching systems being used out there so we took it upon ourselves to
reformulate. I fired 4 sets of 12, yes I said 12!!! ML-16's and every one of
them fired correctly and instantly. We are very confident that this new formula
will work reliably with any clustered situation and we also increased the
amount of to help improve its resistance to high humidity
environments. I put three ML-16 in a steamer for vegetables for 1/2 hour and
then immediately hooked them up to our launching system all three fired. ( a
little slower than normal but they ignited and completely burned) These babies
will fire every time!"
For FLIGHT/RECOVERY, I would rate this
kit
4.5
points.
Overall, the Magnelite kit is very good.
It is the fastest way to make ignitors that work.
I am also impressed with the continuous improvement
efforts. Rocketflite is going after the smaller diameter igniter wires. They
also as mentioned improved their formula.
RocketFlite say you can make over 800 ignitors with a
single kit for a cost of less than $0.65 each. That is a lot of ignitors! I
give the kit an OVERALL rating of
4.5
points.
RocketFlite - Magnelite Ignitor Kit review is provided
courtesy of:
Making Igniters The Rocketflite Way
I learned about the Rocketflite name
years ago when those super sparky motors were all the rage. Greg Dyben has been
a household name around the hobby rocketry arena for years producing great
products like the Silver Streak motors and his Magnelite
igniters. Recently, Greg began marketing a kit-based form of the Magnelite
igniters. One of the benefits of being made available in kit form is that there
is no fee. The components don't become considered an explosive mixture
until they are actually mixed together.
The ML-KIT includes all the
necessary mixing tools, chemicals and simple instructions to make 48 grams of
pyrogen! This is enough pyrogen to make over 800 ML-16 electric matches! The
price Greg is representing is a cost to you of under $0.65 a piece, which is a
pretty good deal.
Once ignited, the pyrogen
burns for approximately one second at a reported temperature of around 6,400
degrees Fahrenheit! Rocketflite maintains that since the first 1/4 inch of this
electric match is only 1/16 of an inch in diameter, it can be used to ignite
most C sized and up end burning and core burning motors on up, as
well as most H and up composite motors.
Peak amperage requirement for
successful ignition is from 5 to 6 amps with a minimum amperage requirement of
2.6 amps for 118ms. This electric match can be fired using any high-capacity 9
volt rechargeable ni-cad battery such as Radio Shack's part#
23-299.
I set out to see just how difficult
making these igniters was, so a full igniter kit was ordered from Rocketflite.
The top right photo shows what I received: four different lengths of igniter
leads (16 inch, 32 inch, 48 inch and 64 inch lengths) as well as the pyrogen
components unmixed in separate containers.
The separate components
consist of the base igniter pyrogen dip in a glass bottle with a metal lid, a
small plastic bottle of what appeared to be potassium percholorate, a small
pipette, for adding naptha in the event you need to reduce your mixture at a
later date, and a craft stick to stir the mixture.
Photo 1 shows the first step
of the mixing procedure, the thorough mixing of the base pyrogen dip. The
instructions call for about one minute of mixing to thoroughly mix the base
mixture. It appeared to have settled a bit before I had opened it, and since
the pyrogen appears to have a heavy metallic content, the particles need good
suspension in the mixture to work properly.
In Photo 2, the powered
components from the small white plastic bottle are added to the pyrogen mixture
in its entirety. That's right, bottom's up. Pour the whole amount in and then
stir the mixture again thoroughly for about a minute.
What you are looking for is
shiny candy-like consistency, sort of like when you are making fudge. Photo 3
shows how thick the pyrogen looks on the stirring stick and the shiny texture
it attains when ready to use.
Once you have completed this
second stirring, you're done mixing. That's as hard as it gets. Add the
contents of one bottle to another and stir. Real rocket science here, people.
It's simple and easy. Anyone can make igniters with this product. But, we have
to dip some first, right?
After selecting which lead
length you are going to use, you are instructed to bend a 90 degree angle in
the end of the igniter that has the bridge wire soldered to it. Photo 4 shows
how this should look. This gives you a handle to hold onto the igniter and a
way to lay it down after you have finished dipping it until it
dries.
I dipped this 16 inch lead by
inserting the igniter slowly into the mixture and slowly stirring the pyrogen a
few times to coat the wire. This allows the pyrogen to flow all around the head
of the igniter completely. This is especially beneficial if you make igniters
for larger motors, in that you are bending the end of the igniter lead, which
forms potential air pockets that need to be filled.
Make ingiters for larger
motors is as simple as bending the end of the igniter lead into a "U"
shape about 3/4" from the end and dipping. You should make sure there is
an air gap between the igniter bridge wire and insulation of the wire next to
it, so that pyrogen covers the bridge wire completely and not in
spots.
Larger igniters can be made
similarly, just make two "U" shapes like a flattened out
"S". This increases the surface area that holds pyrogen and makes for
a larger ball of flame when the igniter is ignited.
CAUTION: Do NOT double dip
igniters. One dipping is sufficient, multiple dippings can cause the pyrogen to
explode without igniting the motor. There is no need to double dip when you can
increase the pyrogen area by making bends in the head of the igniter wire, so
don't do it.
Photo 5 shows a finished
igniter drying. By laying the igniter where the wet pyrogen is able to hang
into the air, such as on the edge of a table or shelf, air gets to all sides of
it, allowing it to dry quickly. Igniters are ready to use within the hour, no
later than three hours.
I have to say I was impressed
with ease and simplicity that Rocketflite makes of igniter making. I used to
think it was a lot of voodoo and science, selecting the right wire and bridge
elements, carefully silver-soldering the leads in place and then carefully
mixing the correct pyrogen formula.
Not anymore! Rocketflite has
taken all the mystique and difficulty out of the process and made it truly
simple. All I needed now was proof in the pudding!

Photo: Tim Eiszner |
What I needed was a down and
dirty test to see how these igniters compared to others on the market. Seemed
like a good excuse for a to me!
Traveling to the Tripoli South
Carolina Freedom Launch over the recent Independence Day weekend, I arranged to
test the fruits of my experiment -- I conducted a drag race consisting of two
LOC EZI-65's.
The two rockets were virtually
identical, both being built stock. For , I selected identical
AeroTech 38mm 360ns RMS motors, loaded with I-161W reload kits, both with
medium delays.
The one on the left had a
dipped Magnelite igniter prepared by me. The one on the right had a name brand
competitor's pre-built igniter. Both weighed in at 4.25 pounds at the
table. After safety check-in, I loaded them onto identical launch pads with
3/8" stainless steel launch rods. Everything was as equal as I could make
it. All that was left to do was arm both pads, do a countdown and press the
button.

Photo: Tim Eiszner |
I have to tell you, even I
wasn't prepared for the holeshot the Magnelite put on the competitor, but
photos don't lie. While the competitor's igniter was still the I motor
up to pressure, the Magnelite-equipped rocket was two feet up the launch
rod!
It appears the
Magnelite-equipped rocket literally exploded off the pad, with the motor
igniting instantly. The other rocket still took another second or two to
ignite, and by that time, the Magnelite-equipped rocket was long gone. Good
thing I owned both rockets and wasn't racing for 'pink slips' or I would be
short a rocket!
The results are right there,
these things work. They are simple to use, simple to make and produce great
results. If you would like more information about Rocketflite's Magnelite
igniter kits, contact them via their website at
http://www.rocketflite.com or send
email to Rocketflt@aol.com.
There is also a double page ad
in the current issue of High Power Rocketry magazine, page 42. Give 'em a try,
I think you may like them.
Written and submitted by
Darrell D. Mobley for Rocketry Online -- Copyright
1996-1999

(Contributed - by Dick Stafford
- 03/10/02)
Brief:
I won a Magnelite kit from the
EMRR 'Boink' Rocket
contest. I received the 2-part pyrogen kit, and 12 each of the 12"
(E-G), 24" (H-J) and 48" (K-M) igniter wires. Here's what I think of
it.
Construction:
The pyrogen in my kit came in plastic bottle, sealed with wax, and packed in
some sort of sand. The oxidizer powder was just in a plastic bottle. The kit
included a set of instructions and a material safety data sheet. Mixing tools
included a paper cone to be used as a funnel, a small screwdriver for stirring
the pyrogen, and a plastic pipette for measuring to keep the mixture at
the right consistency. The latter will prove useful for rejuvenation my
IgniterMan pyrogen also.
Mixing the pyrogen up was easy and making the igniters was a snap. I made 6
of the 12" igniters and 3 of the 24" as I generally would rather only
make what I need at any time. These both use the same gauge wire but differ in
length. Before dipping, they all ranged between 0.8 and 0.9 ohms. Although the
wire wasn't pre-stripped, I found it easy to strip it with only my fingernail.
I left them for a couple of hours and then test fit them in some motors. All of
the igniters would fit in a G80, and most would fit in both an E15 and E30. A
couple with thicker blobs of pyrogen wouldn't fit in the latter. These igniters
are easier to make than the IgniterMan, since you don't have to fiddle with
gapping the wire, and the process is single vs. triple dip (Magnelite
recommends not to seal their igniters). The down side it you have to use their
wires.
Construction Rating:
4
½ out of 5
Flight:
Well, they're 4-for-4. F10, G80 (2), and J420R - all successful.
Flight Rating:
5
out of 5
Summary:
I pretty much agree with the previous reviews. These are easy to make and work
GREAT, with the downside being that you have to use their wires (or wrap your
own, I guess). Note the newer 12" wires fit nicely in E composite motors.
Overall Rating:
5
out of 5
Update 7/2002:
I recently made a batch of igniters using Magnelite pyrogen over wires that
were prepared with Igniterman conductive primer. I made a dozen igniters
using both 30gauge wire wrap wire and various miscellaneous 22-24 gauge
wires that I scrounged from spent igniters. So far, I used two of the 30
gauge igniters (E15 and E30) and one of the larger ones (G80FWL). All were
successful.
While preparing these igniters, I also noticed an additional benefit of the
Magnelite system. That is, you only need acetone to thin or revive dried up
Magnelite pyrogen. The Igniterman pyrogen, once dry, requires both acetone
and methyl ethyl ketone ().
In another experiment, I made my own bridge-wire igniter. I took a used
Magnelite ML-12, trimmed the scorched end, separated the leads, and cut one
lead ½ inch shorter than the other. One-quarter inch of insulation was then
stripped from each lead. Using some wire (I didn’t buy it so I’m
not sure of its gauge), I hand-wrapped 5 turns on the shorter lead’s
conductor, 5 turns on the longer lead’s insulation (about the same as the
original igniter), and another 5 turns longer lead’s conductor. All the
wraps were non-overlapping. The igniter was then prepared like the rest.
Once cured, the igniter read 2.3 ohms. I used it on a G80FWL motor and it
lit immediately. Not bad for a ‘quick and dirty’ effort, and no soldering
or special tools were required.
(by Darwin May - 09/19/04)
Brief:
Magnelite is an igniter making kit by Rocketflite and appears to use magnesium
and acetone for some HOT burning igniters.
Construction:
The Magnelite kit comes with a bottle of oxidizer and the magnesium/acetone
solution. It also comes with a sheet of instructions, a paper cup for a funnel,
and a nail for stirring.
To start, you stir the liquid bottle for one minute until it is uniformly
thick. Then, take the paper cup, cut the tip off, insert it into the acetone
bottle, and pour ALL the oxidizer bottle in it. Then stir it for another 2
minutes. It should be kind of shiny and about the consistency of chocolate
syrup. Make sure you put the lid back on securely, as the acetone evaporates
quickly.
Igniter dipping is very easy, though you need to stir the mix thoroughly
before dipping, which can be hard due to the rapid settling of magnesium. You
can use any of the following:
- Rocketflite pre-made wires. These are expensive, but they are pre-made so
you just dip.
- Your own soldered or solderless wires. This is a much cheaper alternative.
- Commercially made igniters. Dip these to augment them. Recommended for
Copperheads.
Flight:
I dipped several Estes igniters and one AeroTech Copperhead. The Estes igniters
don't do much even with Magnelite, but the Copperhead has more surface area so
it can get a lot of pyrogen on it. I tested a Magne-Copperhead with my Estes
control (which took about 5 seconds to light) and what a flash! That ought to
light those stubborn white lightning motors!
Summary:
PROs: Easy to use and it makes some mean igniters.
CONs: It's expensive!

(Contributed - by Tim Burger - 08/21/06)
Brief:
I've been flying model rockets for a long time now, some 30 years I guess, but
high power rockets are still a new and novel thing to me. In truth, I'm still
not certified level two yet. However, I have noticed some problems with certain
igniters and was planning to get an igniter making kit to dip my own for those
stubborn to light motors and sometimes seemingly dicey ignition systems in
operation by certain clubs. So I was thrilled when given an opportunity to
review the Magnelite line of igniters.
The kit arrived in the standard cardboard box and included a variety of
pre-made wire sets in a variety of lengths/gauges and two bottles of unmixed
materials that are combined to produce the pyrogen. Also included was a soft
plastic pipette, a small blade screw driver, a mixing vial, a nice note from
the manufacturer, and instructions. This was all carefully packed in batting
with the glass jar of one of the pyrogen parts in a baggy filled with
sawdust--this jar was also sealed with what appears to be wax.
Construction:
The instructions are quite thorough about what to watch out for and discuss
necessary precautions. They go into detail on how to store the pyrogen and what
to do if it should become dried out. Mixing the ingredients together and
finding the correct consistency is also clearly laid down. The instructions
also lay out how to create properly dipped igniters and illustrate what is
correct and what isn't.
So with the ceremonial reading of the "destructions" out of the
way, I spread out some newspaper and started mixing. The mixing jar was set out
and ready. The two parts of the pyrogen are then combined and carefully mixed
using the thoughtfully provided "mixing tool" (also known as a
screwdriver). The dry material (packaged in a plastic jar) is added to the wet
material. This can then be thinned using common chemicals purchased at your
local hardware store. The two parts are mixed carefully and thoroughly, then
thinner is added as needed to get a sort of maple syrup consistency. Mixing
continues until all lumps are gone and the pyrogen is stirred from time to time
during the dipping of igniters to keep the two parts from separating.
This is a
bridge-wire type of system, that is a nichrome wire spans a gap between two
leads. The length of the and the gauge of the wire determine the
resistance of the finished product. The leads provided are pre-made with the
bridge wire wrapped around one of the lead wires. The wrapped lead is a bit
longer than the other and the length of the wrap is about half an inch. This
assembly makes for a pretty skinny igniter that is hardly fatter than the two
wires themselves if dipped properly. If you need something fatter, one might
dip it again although the instructions indicate that it isn't necessary. The
resistance is a couple of ohms and the resistance does not change after the
pyro is added. The pre-made leads are available separately.
The actual dipping is quite easy. In fact, it is so easy that if you aren't
careful, you'll wind up with too much pyrogen on the end and have trouble
getting the thing in the motor later. Some of the first ones I made were a bit
too thick. The instructions do warn of this and it didn't require making more
than one or two for me to see what they mean. Once dipped and dripped (to get
off the excess), they are set out to dry. I was hanging the "wet" end
off the edge of the work surface. They dry quickly but are soft for hours.
The instructions cover what to do if you get too much or if they flake or
get damaged. Since the pyrogen is soluble by the thinner, you can re-dissolve
the pyrogen, and re-dip if required.
The instructions also cover in detail methods for making igniters for large
motors--I mean really large motors! My sampling included some 48-inch long
leads of relatively heavy gauge wire. You bend the end over and then over again
to create a large surface area and thereby a heavy load of pyrogen. I made a
few of these, though I haven't any motors of a size that can take them. My plan
was (and still is) to get one of the guys at the to try them out. I
mostly made E through I sized ones that I use a lot of. They were all stored
inside plastic baggies.
Construction Rating:
4
½ out of 5
Flight:
My plan for using these was to light as wide a variety of motors as possible
with them. In order to do that, I thought I would enlist as much help burning
them as possible. You would be surprised at how easy it is to give away
igniters! Especially when the range crew figures out that you have igniters
that will light the most stubborn Black Jack propellant motors!
Since I burn mostly D and E motors, that's what I started out putting them
in. Everything I tried worked the first time. White Lightning D9s and E18s lit
instantly. Blue Thunder D15s and E28s lit with no problems. Even the
notorious-for-chuffing F12 motors lit right up. We used a large amount of
igniters over the space of three launches. These are the 12-inch long, thin
gauge wire types. They fit in pretty small motors and are particularly suited
to the 24mm reloads by virtue of being able to twist the free ends together
thereby shorting out the igniter for safety. Reloads of this size pretty much
require assembling with the igniter in place and the instructions detail this
as one of the steps. With Copperheads, you have an igniter in a live motor that
isn't shorted and is considered unsafe on some ranges. As far as I know, no
Copperhead has never spontaneously "gone off" in a motor--heck, it's
hard enough to get those to work when you want them to!
One of the regulars at our launches was having a problem getting an E30 to
light, so I gave him one of these. He'd already tried three or four different
times and was at a point of declaring that it will never light now that it had
the residue from all of the previous igniters burned in it coating the .
He tried this igniter anyway and voila! It worked, and the motor came up
to pressure quickly.
Later in the day this same person needed an igniter with a skinny profile
for a narrow throated motor and selected one from the group which worked
perfectly. The range of widths that can be available are pretty handy, as I
made some really fat ones too, using the 24-inch long leads thinking they would
work well in large throated motors such as G80s. They work pretty well in all
of 29mm motors available that we've had an opportunity to try, too.
All of the 12- and 24-inch igniters that I handed out were successful with
two exceptions. The rest of the motors lit well and came right up to pressure.
I don't recall any motors chuffing or hesitating when using Magnelites to light
them. Some of the 48-inch long ones were used in Hs and Is, both AeroTech and
products. They worked perfectly nearly every time--there was only one
exception.
There have been three misfires total, over the space of almost four dozen
igniters used in two year's time. The first one was in an F12. The igniter went
but the motor didn't. I don't know why--it just didn't go. It did go without
hesitation on the second attempt though. Dave had a motor that he had been
trying to light for half the day. I don't recall what it was, but I gave him an
igniter that I was certain would light it. It didn't work and Dave gave up
trying. The third was at a launch in Argonia in a three grain Pro38. The
showed , pressed the button, and then it didn't show continuity so he
assumed a misfire as did I. When I went out to the rocket and pulled the
igniter the pyro was unmarked. I slapped the igniter that came with the motor
in, and it lit when called to. The LCO seemed to think that the pyrogen had
come away from the nichrome wire inside and said that if I were to flake off
the pyrogen that I would see a burned bridge wire. Not wanting to believe it, I
checked it with an ohmmeter later and found it to have a resistance in the
accepted range. Questioning this, I burned it in a test environment and it
worked fine with a bright flash and a quick but steady burn so I can't explain
why it didn't go when it was in the motor--it had to be a problem with the
leads. Corrosion after a day of launching perhaps.
Even after all this time, those igniters are still working. One package of
the stuff will go a pretty long time. I have been using the igniters that came
with the motors more this past season, partly as a test to see how long these
will work and partly out of a desire to conserve what I have for the day when
the motors are being stubborn. I'm down to just a handful of the 48s and one or
two 24s at this point.
Part of the reason for taking almost two years to test and use all of the
igniters has been with the trouble in getting motors. Some is due to problems
rocketeers in the U.S. face with new legal issues. The few large igniters that
I made early on are still unused, partly because I haven't had the resources to
progress to level two and partly because I haven't had as much opportunity to
hand out large igniters to someone who's preparing to burn that large a motor.
Flight Rating:
5
out of 5
Summary:
PROs:
- These things work well! Very few misfires and no chuffs!
- The ends can be twisted together for safety.
- Since you are dipping these for your use, you can customize how much
pyrogen is on the tip.
- The stuff will keep forever--just add acetone.
CONs:
Overall Rating:
5
out of 5