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REV 2.4 - Tue Aug 17 11:58:25 2010

Quest
Space Shuttle Intrepid
PO Box 2409
Pagosa Springs, CO 81147-2409
(970) 264-4050
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SPECS: 15.375" x " - 2.19 oz
ROCKSIM FILE: MISSING - please submit here
SpaceCAD FILE: MISSING - please submit here
REC'D MOTORS: B6-4, C6-3

Rating
(by Andy Hobbs)

Quest Shuttle IntrepedBrief:
Quest's new Shuttle Intrepid is a booster glider combination. The booster is based on a T40 tube. The glider rides "piggy back" on the top of the booster. At ejection the Booster deploys a 14" parachute and the glider is released into a slowly spiraling decent.

Modifications:
Minor assembly sequence changes and a relocated launch lug.

Construction:
The components consist of:

  • 1)motor mount clip
  • 1)18mm set of motor mount parts
  • 3)sheets of die-cut balsa
  • 1 ea)Large and small nosecones
  • 1)12" long booster body tube
  • 1)4.375"long glider body tube
  • 1)coupler for the small nosecone
  • 1)1/8x2" launch lug
  • 1)1/8x1" launch lug
  • 1)1/8x1" dowel
  • 1)18"length of elastic cord
  • 1)18" length of Kevlar® cord
  • 1)14" parachute
  • 1)pack of 26" shroud lines
  • 1)set of tyvek gripper tabs
  • 1)set of waterslide decals

Quest Shuttle IntrepedThe instructions were well presented and treat the booster and glider as two separate projects.

This is a skill level 4 kit, and deservingly so. There is a lot of lumber to fill and sand. The need to trim the glider makes the kit a little more challenging, as well.

I did not deviate from the instructions except for two items.

The rear edge of the main wing on the booster shows one wing deck glued to the center of the main wing,the kit supplied two wing decks and I glued both of them in place.

I built the Booster and the Glider wings at the same time as I felt it was easier to glue and sand on one set while the other was drying.

I built the wing assemblies on wax paper and weighted them down with books as they dried

I masked off the balsa areas that were to be glued with tape and applied fill and finish.Once the sealer dried I removed the tape and sanded the surfaces smooth.

The second item I did differently was the placement of the 1" launch lug on the main tube. The instructions show a dimension of 3.125 from the rear of the lug to the rear end of the main tube. I believe this is wrong. The correct dimension should be 2.875.

I called Quest about this mistake, but I never got through to the right person. Other than this mistake, if the directions are closely followed, the kit will go together well.

Finishing:
The finishing job was a little tedious. The suggested paintscheme consists of 3 colors (White,Black,Grey).

The Finishing instructions are very detailed and give a lot of good tips for painting and decaling the model. The decals are very nice and include a lot of different colors and details. The finished model looks great! With a little time and patience you will have a sharp looking flier.

Construction Rating: 4 out of 5

Flight:
The last 2 pages of the instructions provide tips on trimming the glider and prepping the rocket for flight.

For best results the glider should be painted as lightly as possible, if at all.

I made the mistake of applying too much paint to my glider, and it suffered somewhat from the added weight of the paint.

Using the C6-3, the ejection charge was a little past apogee.

My model came out at 2.4oz without motor and performs quite well on the C6 reaching about 450ft altitude.

Good for flying on a small field.

Quest Shuttle IntrepedRecovery:
I found I didn't need to add noseweight to the glider but it came down in a somewhat steep spiral. Overall not too bad of a glide, just a little fast.

The Booster recovers on a 14" chute and just slow enough to keep damage to a minimum. The winglets are easily damaged and will not fair well on a hard surface landing. I suggest building the wings nice and strong.

Flight Rating: 4 out of 5

Summary:
I bought The Quest Shuttle for a few dollars less than an Orbital Transport typically goes for.

With the diecut balsa, Quest's Shuttle is not as challenging to build as Estes' Orbital Transport, but it still deserves the skill level 4 designation.

This kit would make a good upscale or kitbash project, as well.

Overall Rating: 4 out of 5


Rating
(Contributed - by Bill Michaels - 07/08/07)

Brief:
Rocket releases small glider.

Construction:
Booster has large balsa wing-like fins with smaller fins on the wingtips. NC is plastic. Shock cord is the typical Quest Kevlar® string attached to the motor mount that transitions to an elastic cord. A 14 inch parachute is used.

Laser cutting on the fins is excellent. The parts are precisely cut and fit well. Instructions are thorough, clearly written, and well illustrated.

I modified my model--I added a baffle made of two offset disks of balsa to reduce the need for ejection wadding.

The wings are made up from four pieces on both the booster and the glider. Everything lines up and fits well. However, the fin design is weak. The large wing tip fins on the booster are fragile and are bound to hit first on landing. I broke two fins and knocked one off on the first flight even though the landing wasn't particularly hard.

I'd recommend not mounting the top wingtip fins at the 10 degree outward cant as shown in the instructions. (This is done purely for looks.) Instead, I'd mount them perpendicular to the main wing and then add a small piece of balsa to the outside as a stiffener. This piece would tie the upper and lower wing tip fins together and sandwich the end of the "wing" fin making it much harder to knock a tip fin off on landing.

The glider is small, about 6 inches long with a wingspan of 4.5 inches. The glider is very small and hard to test glide. As it turned out during the first flight, the glider was very nose heavy. I'd recommend reducing or eliminating the heavy body tube joiner used to attach the plastic nose cone to the body tube on the glider. That would take some weight out of the nose.

Finishing:
Kit recommends not finishing the glider for best flight performance, but includes complete painting instructions in case you want to paint it anyways. Models like this are built more for looks than absolute flight performance, so I painted mine. I primed the model with white Krylon primer then gave it a light coat of gloss white. I used acrylic dark gray for the underside of the glider and booster.

The waterslide decals worked well and went on easily. I used a Future floor polish as a setting agent and as a final gloss coat.

Construction Rating: 4 out of 5

Flight:
I flew the model on a B6-4. It boosted straight up with the large fin area. Model uses a standard metal retaining hook. No problems there.

Glider separated easily at apogee and dove sharply to the ground. It is so small and light that it suffered no damage.

Recovery:
I used one small piece of wadding as additional protection for the chute. The baffle worked well. The chute was unmarked by the ejection gases and deployed fully. Even so, the model lands hard on the fragile fins.

I'd recommend modifying the Kevlar® shock cord installation so the model lands in a more horizontal position,

Flight Rating: 3 out of 5

Summary:
This is a sharp looking rocket. Construction is a bit more involved than most due to the large balsa wings and fins. I think the design of the fins is the weak point as they are easy to break on landing.

Overall Rating: 3 ½ out of 5

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GUEST's OPINION:
07/04 - "Weird. I was reading an opinion of the SS Intrepid and realized I had the exact same problem: the parachute had fused itself against the decals, ruining both. Thanks to some communication with Bill Stine, he sent me replacement parts free of charge. Secondly, there is a least one extra balsa piece, which is not explained in the instructions. Also, the quality of my balsa in particular is a little "spongy", making it a burden to sand and shape. Other than that, the kit is a fun build." (C.E.D.)

GUEST's OPINION:
04/04 - "I recommend this kit if you are looking for a boost-glider. It is very enjoyable to fly! Definitely use the C6-3 over the B6-4. My experience with the construction of the kit was frustrating for two quality-control related reasons. First, when I opened the parts bag the parachute material was attached to the decal sheet. Peeling off the chute ruined the decals. Second, the die-cut balsa parts were more like "die-gauged" balsa parts. The balsa was fixed with some TLC & Fill-N-Finish. My fix to the decal problem was to make my own set. I added some NASA meatball logos to both the booster and glider to jazz them up a bit. I painted the glider yellow to make it easier to track the little thing and to remind me of the Centuri Space Shuttle." (J.T.L.)

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Date Name Motor Ejection/
Altitude
Wind Notes
06-21-2009 Jim Bassham Est SU C6-3 Apogee - Perfect 0-5 mph winds Flight PictureEvent: Mudrock
- Great up. Glider ejected at apogee, but just spiraled in - hit before mothership. No damage.
11-21-2004 Kenneth Benjaminsson Est SU C6-3 Just Past (1-2sec) Calm - Nice straight flight, glider went down fast,spiraling. One fin from both booster and glider snapped off, due to the somewhat hard landning
05-14-2006 Donald Besaw Est SU B6-2 Apogee - Perfect 5-10 mph winds - Perfect first flight, arrow straight boost to maybe 200 feet and released glider which glided down in a fairly steep circle. Booster recovered on an 18 inch Estes chute, can't wait to try a C6-3 on a calm day. No damage.
05-27-2006 Donald Besaw Est SU C6-3 Apogee - Perfect 5-10 mph winds - Excellent flight, straigh boost to maybe 400 feet and released glider which fluttered down at first then settled into a very rapid glide profile and landed just feet from the pad. Booster recovered nicely on an 18 inch chute. No damage.
07-03-2006 Donald Besaw Est SU C6-5 Apogee - NC Down 0-5 mph winds - Great flight, appeared to roll a bit during boost, very cool. The shuttle always seems to glide in a very deep downward spiral but this is still a great kit to fly. No damage.
09-23-2006 Donald Besaw Est SU C6-3 Just Past (1-2sec) 0-5 mph winds - Nice flight, glider failed to seperate from booster. Recovered after a moderate walk. No damage.
09-23-2006 Donald Besaw Est SU C6-5 Very Late 0-5 mph winds - Another nice flight but the glider again failed to seperate from booster and the 5 second delay ejected later than I would have liked. Landed just a bit hard and loosened a vertical fin. Nothing major.
09-14-2007 Matt Gillard Est SU B6-4 Just Past (1-2sec) 5-10 mph winds - straight boost, glider gave a 17 second glide, a tad nose heavy
09-30-2007 Matt Gillard Est SU B6-4 Apogee - NC Down 0-5 mph winds - 12 second glide for glider.
09-30-2007 Matt Gillard Est SU C6-3 Apogee - Perfect 0-5 mph winds - 24 second glider, glider gave several sharp circuits. rocket landed 1 meter from pad on 12 inch 'chute.
10-07-2007 Matt Gillard Est SU B6-4 Didn't See Calm - night launch with glow sticks, did not attach glider. extra mass of large glow stick brought the rocket down hard smashing the fins -have repaired.
10-07-2007 Matt Gillard Est SU C6-3 Apogee - NC Up Calm - retrimmed glider gave a 30 second glide, in several tight circuits
10-07-2007 Matt Gillard Est SU B6-4 Just Past (1-2sec) Calm - 19 second glide.
11-04-2007 Matt Gillard Est SU C6-3 Just Past (1-2sec) Calm - arched boost last few seconds of powered flight were horizontal -which looked good! shuttle came in fast and steep -about 9 seconds glide. sustainer landed hard and broke a fin -easy repair
12-18-2007 Matt Gillard Est SU C6-3 Apogee - NC Down 0-5 mph winds - glider separated cleanly giving a 24 second glide
12-01-2008 Matt Gillard Est SU C6-3 Apogee - NC Down 0-5 mph winds - good flight, glider gave a 21 second glide
07-02-2010 Matt Gillard Qst SU C6-3 Apogee - NC Down 0-5 mph winds - good straight lift. glider failed to separate, fin cracked on landing
01-01-2004 Jason Lenentine Est SU B6-4 Apogee - NC Down 0-5 mph winds - Slow, graceful flyout followed by quick, smooth glide by shuttle. Parachute failure on booster resulted in cracked winglet -- easily fixed and will fly again.
03-13-2004 Jason Lenentine Est SU C6-3 Apogee - NC Down 5-10 mph winds - Another great flight. Glider landed in some clay and broke attachment dowel for booster. Last flight of the day for this one, but will be easily repaired. Booster landed in clay too, no damage.
03-13-2004 Jason Lenentine Est SU C6-3 Apogee - Perfect 5-10 mph winds - This kit loves the C6-3. Much better than the B6-4 flight. Lost track of the glider right after sep, regained track a few seconds before landing. Used 18 chute on booster -- caught it.
03-13-2004 Jason Lenentine Est SU C6-3 Apogee - Perfect 5-10 mph winds - Tracked glider all the way down. Nice little flyer! Landed ~50 feet from pad. Caught booster.
07-16-2004 Jason Lenentine Est SU B6-4 Didn't Record 0-5 mph winds - Good boost and chute deploy. The glider tumbled about 1/2 way down. Never done that before. The auto-pilot recovered from the spin and the rest of the flight was normal.
07-16-2004 Jason Lenentine Est SU C6-3 Apogee - NC Up 0-5 mph winds - Another great flight for this model. The glider nearly smacked into a chain link fence on its final approach. Fortunately, it cleared it by a couple feet.
09-05-2004 Jason Lenentine Est SU C6-3 Apogee - NC Down 10+ mph winds - Good boost and flyout. Glider did not separate from booster. No damage to either on landing.
09-05-2004 Jason Lenentine Est SU C6-3 Apogee - Perfect 10+ mph winds - Good boost and flyout. Good glider separation and nice flight down. Good booster recovery.
06-25-2005 Jason Lenentine Est SU C6-3 Apogee - NC Down 0-5 mph winds Event: Birthday Launch
- Great boost. Good altitude. Glider had a nice flight. Booster drifted over a hard asphalt parking lot. Couldn't catch up to it in time before a hard smack. Damage to vertical stabs and cracked on wing.
08-06-2005 Jason Lenentine Est SU C6-3 Apogee - Perfect 0-5 mph winds - Good boost. Parachute was fine but maybe the deployment snarled? Glider didn't separate until ~40 feet off the deck. Broken stabilizer on boost landing.
01-06-2007 Jason Lenentine Est SU B6-4 Apogee - Perfect 0-5 mph winds - Good glide for the glider. Booster landed hard and snapped a fin, just where it has been snapped several other times.
05-14-2005 Todd Shero Est SU C6-5 Didn't Record Gusty RIP - Rocket flew 300' before going ballistic. Never saw glider seperate from booster, booster lost to a tree. Good place for this kit!! Status: Tree/Roof
02-28-2009 Howard Smart Est SU C6-3 Apogee - NC Down 0-5 mph winds -
07-08-2006 Chan Stevens Est SU C5-3 Apogee - Perfect 0-5 mph winds - Pretty good boost, mediocre glide.
01-11-2006 Andy Turits Est SU C6-3 Apogee - Perfect Light winds - Very nice flight with a slight arc...perfect circling glide down by orbiter. Booster recovered fine with stock chute.
01-04-2007 Andy Turits Est SU B6-4 Apogee - NC Down Light winds - Respectable first trip for this rocket...About 150 feet with a graceful roll..glider separated and tumbled a little...it got into a nice glide just about 50 feet off the ground...Next time we'll use a C motor to allow more time for the glide.
   

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