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REV 2.4 - Sat Jan 8 06:31:15 2011

Quest
Full Moon
PO Box 2409
Pagosa Springs, CO 81147-2409
(970) 264-4050
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SPECS: 9.124" x 1.57" - 1.6 oz
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SpaceCAD FILE: MISSING - please submit here
REC'D MOTORS: A6-4, B6-4, C6-5

[Picture]For those that have followed the site for a while, you know that I enjoy "stubby" rockets (rockets with 10:1 length:width ration or less). I have built and flown a lot of "stubby" rockets. Here is a comparison of 2.6" versions, and 3" versions, and 4" versions. The Quest Full Moon™ is also a "stubby" rocket standing 9.125" tall and being 1.57" body tube. This is a 5.8:1 ratio. For comparison, the Estes Fat Boy is 4.9:1 while the Estes Big Daddy is 6.3:1.


Rocket PicThe Full Moon™ is deemed a Skill Level 1 Kit for beginner modelers. It is a fairly straightforward, 3-fins and a nose cone (3FNC) rocket. It uses Quest-typical construction techniques and can be built quite quickly.

The rocket includes a 6" white paper body tube, a plastic nose cone, 3 die-cut balsa fins, a motor mount (18mm) with thrust ring and retainer hook, a recovery system made up of a Kevlar shock tether, elastic shock cord and a 14" plastic parachute. These along with a single peel-n-stick decal and a launch lug make up the rocket.

CONSTRUCTION:

The instructions are printed on 6 pages of 8½ x 11" paper. They are typical Quest instructions being well illustrated and clear. They would ensure that a builder of any level, but specifically beginners, would have a successful build. I like that the instructions also include a 4" ruler printed on the front. In addition, there is a fin marking guide that is cut out of the front of the instructions.

Since the built of this 3FNC rocket is so straightforward, I'm only going to outline a couple of areas of concern and interest.

FinsFirst, I spent a bit of time looking for my 4th fin! You see from the picture, how one would believe that a 4th fin should be included. The rocket only has 3 fins, so don't spend any time looking!

I was surprised at the fit of the thrust ring into the motor mount tube. It was very loose. It should be a bit loose since the Kevlar shock tether is supposed to be tied to it. But even after this was done, it was loose. I allowed the space to be filled with glue.

Quest seemed to have changed their motor mount a bit on this rocket. We are all familiar with cutting a small slot in the motor tube, right below the thrust ring to install the motor hook. Motor MountNot this time. This motor hook is longer and the upper bend goes above the thrust ring and wraps around it. This would solve the loose thrust ring problem! It is a good idea, since that thrust ring will be taking the shock of the ejection since the Kevlar is tied to it.

Other than those things, the build was easy. The instructions guide you through making fin fillets, sealing your balsa fins, painting, and applying the decal to finish the rocket. There are also instructions for the parachute assembly, which involves applying Gripper Fasteners to the parachute and tieing on the shroud lines.

I decided to paint my Full Moon™, Lime Green. I wanted to be able to see it! I didn't spend a lot of time smoothing the fins or hiding the spirals, but the final look is good. After applying the decal I did clear coat the rocket.

Overall, for CONSTRUCTION I would rate this kit 4 ½ points. It is a straightforward build. Not much else to say.

LaunchingFLIGHT/RECOVERY:

Quest recommends the A6-4 (first flight), B6-4 or the C6-5.

Quest also indicates that the weight of the Full Moon™ is 1.06 ounces. Mine weighed in at 1.6 ounces.

Lastly, Quest indicates flights to 900 feet. On a C6-5, mine simmed to 933 feet.

My first flight was on an A8-3. It was stable and fun to watch. The 14" parachute for this light rocket carried it for a bit (even with the A8-3 altitude). From this test flight, I determined that if I wanted to keep this rocket, the parachute must go.

After adding a 24"x1" Lime Green streamer (tree marking strip from the hardware store) I was ready to fly it again. So I loaded a B6-4. Another stable flight. The 4 second delay would have been better at 5 seconds, but for a small rocket, no issues. The streamer made it easy to follow and there was no damage on the landing.

The last flight for the day was on a C6-5. It went way up there and I noticed it flying straight but with a spin all the way up. Again, with the Lime Green and long Lime Green streamer, it was easily tracked and recovered.

Simulation

The Quest Kevlar and elastic recovery system is excellent. Over the years, this system seems to be better than the typical 3-fold paper and elastic system for other rockets that I have flown.

For FLIGHT/RECOVERY, I would rate this rocket 4 points. The parachute is too big for this rocket. Quest would do well to include a long streamer. Otherwise, it is a solid flying bird.

I give the rocket an OVERALL rating of 4 ½ points. Being a "stubby" rocket drew me to purchase it. It looks good and flies good, so other than preference for recovery (wanting not to loose it), the rocket is solid.


Rating
(Contributed - by Stan Horowitz)

Rocket PicBrief:
This is a fine sport flier! It has a nice size body tube that lets you load up the parachute with ease! Every thing in the kit was in good condition in the package. The die-cut balsa fins are of good quality & a fine grain. The plastic nose cone is like most Quest/Estes types & takes paint well. I like the Quest way of mounting the shock cord with kevlar string to the motor mount(better than the Estes way!). The assembly is easy on this skill level 1 kit. I took my time & it went together fast. I used white glue & it worked out fine. The instructions are clear & easy to follow. After construction, the fins seem strong for the rocket they're on. The finishing was easy- standard stuff, I used 3 coats of sanding sealer to get a nice surface on the fins for painting. I painted the nose cone by its self & the same for the body tube. I used the colors Quest had on the enclosed sheet that came with the kit; Red for the body & White for the nose cone. Looks sharp! The parachute is a soft plastic type like an Estes (not hard like the older Quest types). The shroud lines seem better than they used to be.

I took the rocket to my brother's field (he has big open land for a back yard!). The first flight was with an Estes A8-3 since I dont have any Quest engines. It went up nice & staright in a low wind & went up about 100 feet or so, the parachute came out fine & a good landing. The second flight was with an Estes B4-4 that I had & man it went up! The chute came out & it landed a few yards from the pad. An all around fine rocket kit for anyone. Great to see where the wind is going before launching a larger rocket!

Construction:
As I stated, the kit uses a standard Estes type body tube with a plastic nose cone & die-cut balsa fins. It has three fins & standard low power engine mounting items.

Motor MountThere is nothing special about the components but they are all fine for this type of kit. The instructions are clear & I see no problem for any one following them. Its also easy to build this kit. I think it's a rather solid kit for the low price. I would say no cons in construction.

Finishing:
Finishing is straight foward, no special things to get in the way. I used sanding sealer on the fins for a nice finish & local discount paint.. You get one press on decal for one fin that has the kit name. I guess for the low price you should not think you will get a big water slide sheet like 20 years ago(oh-well!). I do think the finished kit looks real sharp!

Construction Rating: 5 out of 5

Quest Full MoonFlight:
The flights were fine. I used the Estes A8-3 for the first flight & it went up only about 100 feet. The second flight with an Estes B4-4 was great & it went up real nice! I would say there were no cons on flight. The rocket came back in fine shape on the grass field here. I used about 3 1/2 sheets of wadding in it. This rocket flies straight up here.

Recovery:
The 14 inch plastic parachute is red & yellow & is easy to fit into the wide body tube. I have no cons on the recovery.

Flight Rating: 5 out of 5

Summary:
I would say that Quest did a good job on this kit. I enjoyed it & think it was a better quality that the last Quest kit I had put together a few years back. Pretty good for the year 2003 (I hope they don't read this & mess it up!). I think I found a low price kit with no cons! Wow! It doesn't happen too much today!!

Overall Rating: 5 out of 5


Rating
(Contributed - by Chan Stevens [Who's Who Page] - 09/25/05) Quest Full Moon

Brief:
A miniaturized version of the Big Betty, this little guy is a quick, easy build and reliable flyer.

Construction:
The parts list includes:

  • Plastic nose cone
  • BT-60 (equiv.) body tube
  • 3 Laser-cut balsa fins
  • Centering rings
  • 18mm motor tube
  • Metal motor hook
  • Thrust ring
  • 14" plastic chute
  • Kevlar/elastic shock cords
  • 1/8" launch lug
  • Peel n stick decal

This was accurately described as a skill level 1 kit, so the construction is fairly simple and straightforward. The instructions are about 3 pages and clearly written and illustrated.

The motor mount assembly is the typical 18mm tube, thrust ring, and motor hook. It also uses a couple of centering rings to slip into the BT-60 body tube. Given the large body tube, there are obvious possibilities to upscale this to 24mm, and I'm sure a few fliers have already done this.

The Kevlar and elastic shock cord combo is anchored to the motor mount. This is a great feature for a mass market kit, both rugged and durable.

The body tube needs to be marked using a wraparound guide for the standard 3-fin and lug arrangement. It's a good idea to scuff the body tube first with 120 grit sandpaper to provide a better bonding surface for the fins. Once the fins are tacked on, the rather long launch lug is glued on, essentially completing the rocket construction.

Finishing:
The standard color scheme on this is a simple paint job and is decent looking. The fins and body are a gloss red, and the nose cone is a gloss white. This doesn't even require masking, assuming you hold off on attaching the nose cone until after it's painted.

I started off with a couple coats of white primer, then followed up with Krylon red and white. After allowing a day to dry, I then applied the peel n stick "Full Moon" decal, which provides a nice break to the monochromatic red.

Construction Rating: 5 out of 5

Flight:
The recommended motors for this are the common mid-delay A through C motors. (Quest motors would be A6-4, B6-4, and C6-5. Estes motors would go with A8-3 instead of A6-4).

For the maiden flight, I started low since it would be flying in 10 mph conditions and loaded an A8-3 in it. It flew perfectly straight without any weathercock, but it did drift downwind a bit on the way up. Apogee was right on top.

Recovery:
The 14" chute uses shroud lines attached to holes reinforced with paper rings. This is a pretty flimsy approach and I broke loose one shroud line as a result. I would prefer tape disk retention instead, which is less likely to tear through the chute.

The chute did slow it down enough and recovery was fine.

Flight Rating: 4 out of 5

Summary:
PROs: simple build, versatile motor range, and flies well.

CONs: flimsy shroud line attachment.

This is a nice little kit worth picking up, especially if you can grab one at one of those half-off sales.

Overall Rating: 4 out of 5

[Submit your Opinion]

GUEST's OPINION:
05/09 - "The Full Moon is a nice little flier, especially on C motors and a streamer for recovery. I fly it first on launch days to see how the winds are going. It's very, very stable too." (G.B.)

GUEST's OPINION:
10/08 - "No issues while building the Full Moon. High quality kit that comes with a nice decal. I fly mine mostly with a B6-4, or C6-5. You can track this model easily, and every flight is stable. Nice rocket, easy build." (J.F.B.)

GUEST's OPINION:
04/08 - "The Full Moon kit's wide body makes it especially interesting for bashing. I made one of my Full Moons into a 2x18mm cluster with hand-made centering rings, and I have made two 24mm-powered Full Moons (both of which, incidentally, were lost to the Rocket Gods) again with hand-made CRs. Both required a very small amount of additional nose weight; an estimate would be 0.5 oz. If you decide to go this route, you'll DEFINITELY want to use streamers for recovery. The 2x18mm first flew on two C6-3s, and the ejection was quite early as one can imagine. The streamer was ripped in two, but enough remained to bring it down with no damage. The 24mm FM's performed incredibly well and exhibited no rolling in flight." (D.C.)

GUEST's OPINION:
04/07 - "I just built a recently-purchased Quest 'Full Moon'. It doesn't have the 180-degree bend in the motor retention hook, so something has changed between my kit and the ones reviewed above. I do want to comment that the body tube seemed to be made of a cheaper material than the usual high-quality parts I've found in other Quest kits. This one's surface was particularly susceptible to moisture from my yellow glue, causing the surface to lose it's glossy shine. Whenever I tried to re-position a fin or just wipe off a little excess glue, the white surface underneath was left pasty (like wet cardboard)instead of glossy. It seems the varnish or whatever surface the tube supplier used is much thinner and cheaper than most other rocket body tubes I've worked with, because it did not take much moisture to ruin the snoothness of the body tube... so be extra careful to not allow any excess glue. Consider using 5-minute epoxy instead." (D.E.)

GUEST's OPINION:
11/05 - "I think the Quest Full Moon is the perfect rocket for C6-7 motors, as long as your using a streamer. It flies very high, yet you are able to see it & track its entire flight because of its girth & large fins. The streamer recovery will allow you to get it back every time." (R.F.)

GUEST's OPINION:
07/05 - "This is a great flying reliable rocket on a streamer. We use it mostly as a wind tester, or for the local kids to get a push of the button. Mine always diverges from the wind instead of weathercocking into it though. I had trouble with reliable chute openings because the small depth area between engine mount and bottom of nose cone scrunched the chute too much so the streamer was the answer." (H.A.F.)

GUEST's OPINION:
05/05 - "The remark regarding the longer motor hook, and its front bend being *forward* of the thrust ring; deserves mention. This made me do a "double take" when I saw this in the instructions. My kit came with the standard, traditional-length hook. If I had mounted it as per the instructions...as Homer would say: "D'Oh!"." (G.H.)

GUEST's OPINION:
06/03 - "This is a wonderful rocket that gives great flights time after time. Cut a spill hole in the chute as this light rocket will drift out of sight in no time on the standard, uncut chute. This kit is well worth double what it costs and can be finished in a wide variety of paint schemes. Try a blue gloss body with a chrome nose-cone...Oh, be sure to reinforce the fins with glue. They do break rather easily." (K.R.E.)

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SPECIFIC ROCKET TIP:
04/07 - "With the name FULL MOON, this rocket is a natural for a night-flyer. Don't paint the nose cone, but do install a small button-cell battery powered LED light into the base of the nose cone - causing it to light up from the inside. You will not believe how easy it is to see and track against the dark night sky, plus the exhaust flames on the ascent are spectacular. I used a little LED-based "Finger Light" (available from Wal-Mart and some dollar stores). A 3/8" drill bit was the perfect diameter to match the lens on the finger light. The light weighs barely 1/8th ounce and there's plenty of room in the body tube for it to extend below the nosecone. If you cannot find the Finger Lights (they have an elastic band that holds them to your finger for reading or being seen at night), then there are plenty of other flashy-blinky lights built into dollar store toys and candy items that can easily be adapted to light up this large nosecone and makes it into a great flyer for day or night time flying by the "Full Moon". Bring your Night-Flyers to NARAM-49 in late July 2007- the opening Saturday night will be a night-flying session!" (D.E. )

SPECIFIC ROCKET TIP:
10/06 - "A spill hole is a great idea for this kit! Fly real high with a C motor and can drift far without the hole in the chute! I did try a flight with a streamer, it is light so the streamer does work but I think a grass field is needed if you dont want the fins broken! Great kit!" (S.W. )

[Enter Flight Log]
Date Name Motor Ejection/
Altitude
Wind Notes
12-03-2006 George Beever Est SU B4-4 Apogee - NC Up Calm - Nice boost, but due to weak ejection charge, parachuute did not deploy. The two other motors in the samepack had the same problem. No damage to rocket. First flight of model.
06-24-2007 George Beever Est SU B4-6 Apogee - NC Down 0-5 mph winds - Great flight - used a red mylar streamer from Ton's Rocketry for recovery.
02-03-2008 George Beever Est SU C6-7 Didn't See Calm - Great boost, couldn't see ejection even though the sky was clear. Way out of sight! Streamer recovery. Short walk due to calm conditions.
05-09-2009 George Beever Qst SU B6-4 Apogee - NC Down 5-10 mph winds - Great flight.
07-03-2010 George Beever Qst SU B6-4 Apogee - NC Up 0-5 mph winds Event: FIG Newtons-11
- Great, fast flight.
01-27-2008 John Bergsmith Est SU C6-5 Just Past (1-2sec) 5-10 mph winds - Great flight in fairly windy conditions. With a C6-5 you get some serious performance. I had a small chute installed so it came down nicely with a short walk. This is a great performing rocket.
06-06-2009 John Bergsmith Est SU C6-3 Apogee - Perfect 0-5 mph winds - Another nice flight, recovered with no damage.
11-07-2009 John Bergsmith Est SU B6-4 Apogee - NC Down 5-10 mph winds Event: Family Site
- Great flight, straight boost. Wind doesn't seem to bother this design at all.
03-07-2010 John Bergsmith Est SU C6-3 Apogee - NC Down 5-10 mph winds Event: Field Q
- Great flight, a lot of altitude.
11-13-2010 John Bergsmith Est SU C6-5 Apogee - NC Down 0-5 mph winds Event: Field QB
- Always a stable flyer, great altitude.
06-29-2004 Donald Besaw Est SU B6-4 Just Past (1-2sec) Calm - Nice first flight. Recovered fine on the streamer salvaged from my destroyed Custom Serval. No damage.
06-29-2004 Donald Besaw Est SU C6-5 Just Past (1-2sec) Calm - Very nice flight, lifted off straight and fast and went maybe 900 feet up as advertised. Great streamer recovery and a short walk for recovery. No damage. This is a great little rocket.
02-07-2005 Donald Besaw Est SU A8-3 Just Past (1-2sec) 5-10 mph winds - Nice flight, close recovery. No damage.
07-04-2005 Donald Besaw Est SU C6-5 Just Past (1-2sec) Calm - Very nice flight, arrow straight boost to 900+ feet. Streamer seperated at ejection, tumbled in just fine and landed with no damage.
12-14-2005 Donald Besaw Qst SU B6-4 Just Past (1-2sec) 5-10 mph winds - Nice first flight of the day to check the wind. Flew great and landed close to the pad. No damage.
12-14-2005 Donald Besaw Qst SU C6-5 Just Past (1-2sec) 5-10 mph winds - This was the C6-5 that failed to light in the Lightning Strike but it gave the Full Moon a very nice flight and recovery, landed close to pad. No damage.
12-23-2005 Donald Besaw Qst SU A6-4 Just Past (1-2sec) 0-5 mph winds - Nice flight to maybe 200-250 feet. Great streamer recovery, landed right next to me. No damage.
01-28-2006 Donald Besaw Qst SU A6-4 Apogee - NC Down 10+ mph winds - Wind test, great flight. Landed right next to me, just feet from the pad. No damage.
02-06-2006 Donald Besaw Qst SU C6-5 Just Past (1-2sec) 0-5 mph winds - Very nice flight, straight, fast, and high. Perfect streamer recovery, landed close to pad. No damage.
03-04-2006 Donald Besaw Qst SU C6-5 Apogee - NC Down 0-5 mph winds - Excellent flight. Straight, fast, and high. Great streamer reovery, landed just feet from the pad. No damage.
12-15-2006 Donald Besaw Est SU C6-5 Just Past (1-2sec) 0-5 mph winds - Excellent flight, really scoots on this motor. Nice straight boost to maybe 900-1,000 feet, great streamer recovery, landed close by. No damage.
12-24-2007 Donald Besaw Est SU C6-5 Just Past (1-2sec) 0-5 mph winds - Great flight up, straight boost to maybe 1,000 feet. Not so good recovery, the steamer deployed fine but the rocket came in rather quick and snapped one fin off upon landing. Already fixed.
04-22-2006 Dave Brunsting Est SU A8-3 Apogee - Perfect 10+ mph winds Event: Team-1, Three Oaks, Michigan
- First flight for the first rocket my daughter made.
08-10-2008 Edward Chess Est SU A8-3 Apogee - Perfect 0-5 mph winds Event: FVR-August 2008
- Absolutely no rotation--must have got the fins on right. Nice rocket for small field.
05-15-2010 Edward Chess Est SU A8-3 Apogee - Perfect 5-10 mph winds Event: May Club Launch/Davis Park
- Chute did not clear body, held in with cute protector, but still melted. Tumble recovery with no damage.
07-04-2003 EMRR Est SU A8-3 Apogee - Perfect 5-10 mph winds - First flight. Good all around with the parachute carrying the rocket a bit in the wind.
07-04-2003 EMRR Est SU B6-4 Just Before 5-10 mph winds - Good flight on the B6. The 4 seemed to be a bit short, but not too bad. I had replaced the parachure with a nice streamer. Recovered with no issues.
07-04-2003 EMRR Est SU C6-5 Just Before 5-10 mph winds - Wow! It went up there but we did recover it since it was on the streamer. I did notice a lot of spin on the way up.
09-01-2003 EMRR Apo SU D10-7 Didn't See 5-10 mph winds - Yep, I did it! Wow, it was gone and then I heard the pop and saw the smoke. I was able to see the rocket drop and it was recovered!
03-28-2004 EMRR Qst SU A6-4 Apogee - NC Down 0-5 mph winds - Fun flight, streamer recovery. No problems.
05-27-2004 EMRR Qst SU C6-5 Apogee - NC Down Calm - Varooom! It was a nice and high flight and the Quest motor has great tracking smoke. Recovered.
10-23-2004 EMRR Est SU C6-5 Apogee - Perfect 0-5 mph winds - Great high flight. Love this little bird.
05-29-2005 EMRR Qst SU A6-4 Very Late Calm - Looked like trouble. Made wife say oh, no, then pop and recovered.
06-05-2003 Kurt Emmerling Est SU A8-3 Very Late 0-5 mph winds - Maiden flight. Slight arc into the wind, late ejection. Recovered well only 20 feet from launch site. Will try B6-2 next flight.
06-16-2004 Paul Gray Est SU A8-3 Just Before 0-5 mph winds - First Flight. Very nice and will fly soon on a B6-4 or B6-6.
06-27-2008 Chris Halinaty Est SU A8-3 Apogee - Perfect 0-5 mph winds Event: U-Prize 4
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06-27-2008 Chris Halinaty Est SU B6-4 Apogee - Perfect 0-5 mph winds RIPEvent: U-Prize 4
- Status: Tree/Roof
03-13-2007 Mal McClenaghan Est SU A8-3 Just Before 0-5 mph winds - Shakedown flight. Low and slow.
03-25-2007 Mal McClenaghan Est SU B4-4 Apogee - Perfect 5-10 mph winds - Nice flight.
03-25-2007 Mal McClenaghan Est SU C6-5 Didn't See 5-10 mph winds RIP - Good altitude. Drifted a long way on a 30cm (12) chute. Lost in the billabong! Status: Lost
04-19-2008 Ron McFerren Est SU C6-5 Apogee - Perfect 10+ mph winds - 1st flight for this rocket. Flew great considering the gusty winds. At least it was a nice day for a walk!
09-17-2006 Mike Morley Est SU A8-3 Apogee - Perfect 0-5 mph winds - Nice flight
09-23-2006 Mike Morley Est SU A8-3 Apogee - Perfect 5-10 mph winds - Teriffic performer.
09-23-2006 Mike Morley Est SU A8-3 Apogee - Perfect 5-10 mph winds - Another nice one.
10-01-2006 Mike Morley Est SU A8-3 Apogee - Perfect Calm - Straight up, straight down. Parachute did not unfurl, but acted like a streamer. No damage.
08-22-2009 Joseph Olexa Est SU B6-4 Apogee - Perfect 0-5 mph winds Flight Picture - First flight for my Full Moon. Good straight stable flight with parachute deployment and soft landing. Great Flight!
09-20-2009 Joseph Olexa Est SU B6-4 Apogee - Perfect Calm Flight Picture - Another great flight for the Full Moon. Seems to be a favorite with the younger rocketeers. Excellent flight with parachute eject and soft landing.
11-15-2009 Joseph Olexa Est SU B6-4 Apogee - Perfect 0-5 mph winds Flight Picture - Last flight of the day today with the Full Moon. Good stable flight with parachute eject and soft landing. Great way to end the day!
09-25-2005 Chan Stevens Est SU B6-4 Apogee - NC Down 0-5 mph winds -
11-20-2005 Chan Stevens Est SU C6-5 Apogee - Perfect 5-10 mph winds -
03-26-2006 Chan Stevens Est SU C5-3 Apogee - NC Up 5-10 mph winds -
03-02-2008 Doyle Tatum Est SU A8-3 Apogee - Perfect 5-10 mph winds - Nice slow, low flight - recovery on streamer. This was my test flight for my kid build and fly I'm doing for the EMRR 2008 Contest. I've decided to go with this kit.

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