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REV 2.4 - Mon Nov 29 00:12:19 2010

Quest
Force 5
PO Box 2409
Pagosa Springs, CO 81147-2409
(970) 264-4050
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SPECS: 23.5" x 1.378" - 4.07oz oz
ROCKSIM FILE: MISSING - please submit here
SpaceCAD FILE: MISSING - please submit here
REC'D MOTORS: B6-4, C6-3, C6-5

Rating
(Contributed - by Frank Casey - 03/08/07) Quest Force 5

Brief:
The Force-5 Kit No. 3010 is a skill level 3 kit by Quest. It flies to 700 feet and uses a 14" parachute. It comes with laser cut balsa fins. This was my first Quest kit and I was very impressed by the quality of parts and originality of design. This isn't your typical 3 or 4 fin rocket kit.

Construction:
Parts include:

  • 1 main body tube
  • 2 smaller diameter body tubes (referred to as booster tubes)
  • motor clip and 3 thrust rings
  • motor mount tube
  • 2 die-cut centering rings
  • plastic nose cone
  • 4 smaller plastic nose cones to fit booster tubes
  • launch lug
  • 24" shock cord
  • 24" Kevlar cord
  • shroud lines and sticky tabs
  • 14" chute
  • 2 separate laser cut fin sets
  • waterslide decals
  • instructions with launch procedures

The build was definitely in the Level 3 range. There is enough here to keep an experienced modeler busy for a while. Attaching the big wing like fins was tricky, as the two main wings have to be glued, at an angle to two winglets, and then glued to the main body tube. I found that placing a small wood block under each wing helped to hold it in place while drying.

Quest has the builder attach the Kevlar line to the motor mount and then the shock cord to the Kevlar line. I really like this method over the method of gluing the shock cord to the tube body using a paper mount.

Pros:

  • Great step by step instructions
  • Engaging build

Cons:

  • None that I found

Finishing:
I primed this rocket with Painters Touch white primer, sanded, primed again, and then finished with three coats of Painters Touch Gloss White paint.

The body tubes did have a fairly deep spiral, which some might decide to fill. I didn't fill the spiral on this model, and the finished product still looks great.

The decals are high quality waterslide. There are many decals. It was fairly easy to apply them. You just need to take your time and not rush it.

Construction Rating: 4 ½ out of 5

Flight:
This is one of those rockets that you don't want to fly on a windy day. The large wings act as sails and if it's windy this could take a nice horizontal ride.

I've flown the rocket six times since building it and I have only had one bad flight. That was on a windy day and the rocket tried to hang on to the launch rod and then went on a fairly horizontal flight before sweeping upwards before ejection. No damage luckily. On the other flights it boosted fairly straight up.

I have heard from some other builders about a cork screw effect that I have not experienced. I'd say good attention to detail on completing the wing-like fins and only launching on a calm day are good bets.

My flights on C6-3s have all been between 500 and 700 feet give or take.

Recovery:
I've had good luck recovering this rocket. The 14" chute deployed within an acceptable range and it doesn't float too far from the pad.

Flight Rating: 4 out of 5

Summary:
I was very impressed with this kit and hope that Quest continues to pursue the non 3-4 fin designs with other of their new kits. They have done a great job with this one.

I also really like the fact that they include Kevlar line with this kit. It shows that Quest is willing to go that extra step to ensure quality.

Overall Rating: 4 ½ out of 5

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GUEST's OPINION:
03/07 - "Have a yet-to-be-finished Force 5 kit going. Like its shape. Mine's getting non-spec paint job. Waterslide decals, thank you Quest, are my preference after 37 years =o building plastic models and model trains. (dang I feel old now) Wonder how it might fly on D motor and what would have to be done to make that workable? Launch wind conditions advisory duly noted." (F.S.W.)

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SPECIFIC ROCKET TIP:
06/08 - "I've heard of a number of people having bad flight experiences with the Force 5. I have had only one and that was due to wind during the launch. My advice is that if you have this rocket and intend to fly it, do so only on a zero wind day. After having had the one bad flight I have only flown this rocket on days with no wind and have had great flights since. It's a very good looking rocket and an excellent build. It just has a lot of wing surface wich will react to any wind which can cause the flight to be unstable." (FC )

SPECIFIC ROCKET TIP:
06/08 - "Flights have been less than spectacular. Very low, wobbly, flights on B and C motors. There have been a few people who have had good success flying the Force 5...unfortunately, I'm not one of them. There have been several TRF members who have had similar experiences to mine, so it's good to know I'm not alone. I take great care on fin alignment and would suggest anyone building this model to do the same. But I am almost certain, that isn't the problem. Adding a small amount of clay in the nose will help some, but not totally cure the problem. " (C.Z. )

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Date Name Motor Ejection/
Altitude
Wind Notes
05-25-2009 Jim Bassham Est SU C6-3 Apogee - Perfect 0-5 mph winds Flight PictureEvent: Methodist Church
- First flight of the Force 5. Nice, slow lift-off. Good climb. ejected at apogee. Used 18 Balsa Machining chute - worked great for a nice, slow decent. Great flight. Really like this rocket.
05-25-2009 Jim Bassham Est SU C6-3 Apogee - Perfect 0-5 mph winds Flight PictureEvent: Methodist Church
- Rocket took off straight, then spun during coast. Thought it had lost a fin, but had no damage. Nice flight otherwise. Works great on a C6-3.
05-25-2009 Jim Bassham Est SU C6-3 Apogee - Perfect 0-5 mph winds Flight PictureEvent: Methodist Church
- Rocket spun on whole flight, faster as it climbed. Seems to be it's nature. Still stable and goes straight up, so it's just something to get used to. Still like it.
05-25-2009 Jim Bassham Est SU B6-4 Late (2-3sec) 0-5 mph winds Flight PictureEvent: Methodist Church
- Tried a B6-4 for the last flight of the day. Too long of a delay, model went into a flat spin on coast before ejecting, but chute stablized it on the way down. Landed safe. Delay is too long - will stick with C's.
08-23-2009 Jim Bassham Est SU C6-3 Apogee - Perfect 0-5 mph winds Event: Plumas Lake
- Spinning flight into sun - Perfect eject and landing
08-23-2009 Jim Bassham Est SU C6-3 Apogee - Perfect 0-5 mph winds Event: Plumas Lake
- Another perfect flight - but spinning.
08-23-2009 Jim Bassham Est SU C6-3 Apogee - Perfect 0-5 mph winds Event: Plumas Lake
- Another spinning, but perfect flight - almost landed in the street
11-22-2009 Jim Bassham Est SU C6-3 Apogee - Perfect 0-5 mph winds Event: Fresno
- Another spinny but perfect flight. Always gets people's attention with the way it flies.
03-28-2010 Jim Bassham Est SU C6-3 Apogee - Perfect 5-10 mph winds Event: Plumas Lake
- Spun up on the way up. Parawad recovery. Caught it before it hit the asphalt. No damage.
06-24-2007 George Beever Est SU C6-3 Didn't See 0-5 mph winds - Great boost, but right into the sun and I never saw the ejection. Recovery via an 18 mylar chute. Nice recovery.
07-01-2007 George Beever Est SU C6-5 Apogee - NC Down 10+ mph winds - Great flight - used a 12 chute due to the wind, still ended up in a corn field.
12-26-2007 George Beever Qst SU C6-5 None - Parachute Fail Calm Event: Cocalico High School
- Slight angle on rod caused less-than expected altitude, that coupled with a long delay [more like 7 seconds instead of 5] caused model to lawn dart. Ejection charge went off with nose cone stuck in the grownd. No damge to the model-it will fly again.
05-02-2010 George Beever Est SU C6-3 Apogee - Perfect 5-10 mph winds - Great flight.
03-15-2009 Mike Lysic Est SU B6-4 Apogee - NC Down 0-5 mph winds - Good flight, a little underpowered, but OK for first flight. Rocket flew good and straight. I was a little worried as I've heard that this rocket can be squirrely. I took extra care with fins during build.
03-15-2009 Mike Lysic Est SU B6-4 Apogee - NC Down 0-5 mph winds - Good flight, a little underpowered, but OK for first flight. Rocket flew good and straight. I was a little worried as I've heard that this rocket can be squirrely. I took extra care with fins during build.
04-11-2009 Mike Lysic Est SU C6-5 Apogee - NC Down 5-10 mph winds Event: Gumbert's field
- What a squirrely ride! Man! It corkscrewed most of the way up. This one definately flew better on a B6-4.
07-26-2009 Glenn Roth Est SU C6-3 Apogee - NC Up
(300 ft)
0-5 mph winds RIPEvent: 4H Fair
- Nice rocket, perfect flight, lost in a tree, 75 ft up. Status: Tree/Roof
02-09-2008 Aaron Stanley Est SU C6-5 Just Past (1-2sec) Calm - Interesting flight.
10-10-2009 Aaron Stanley Est SU C6-5 Apogee - NC Down Calm -
08-09-2008 Andy Turits Qst SU B6-4 Apogee - Perfect Light winds - Slight wobble on the way up but overall straight to about 300 feet...Nice inaugural flight.Flawless recovery.
08-09-2008 Andy Turits Est SU C6-3 --- not selected --- Light winds - Yes, this bird ascended perfectly with the awesome power of the C engine :) altitude about 600 feet...Perfect recovery...My new favorite rocket (today).
   

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