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PML
AMRAAM (2.1")
6030 Paver Lane
Jeddo, MI 48032
(810) 327-1710
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SPECS: 42" x 2.1" - 24 oz
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REC'D MOTORS: 29mm; (PML website has specifics)

Rating
(by Brett Keller - 07/16/99)

Rocket PicBrief:
This scale model uses a 29mm motor mount for midpower to high power motors, and uses a parachute and PML's piston for recovery.

Construction:
The construction of the AMRAAM was much easier than I had predicted. The packaging was neat and informative. All of the parts were in the kit and in perfect shape.

The kit is made of a PML 54mm phenolic tube, 8 G10 fins, a 29mm phenolic tube for the motor mount, 2 thick plywood centering rings, piston retaining strap, piston, shock cord, 24" parachute, thick plastic nose cone, and a copper launch lug (which I cut in half for better support).

The instructions were not anywhere near what they could have been. They took up the equivalent of one piece of paper, and assumed a lot. I was lucky to have built mid-power rockets before so knew how to make good bonds with epoxy, etc. The instructions did have several useful diagrams.

One problem I had was that on the lower set of fins I could not tell which end went through the rocket and which end stuck out. They were very similar, but different enough to make a difference. I looked as closely as possible at the diagram provided and then tried what looked more like it. I'm still not sure if I did the right one! But the only time I think it looks odd is when it is held up to my Estes AMRAAM (of which I have know nothing of scale accuracy).

One thing I did like about the construction was materials. This was my first experience with Phenolic and G10. The materials weigh a lot more, but they are stronger than plywood and paper. The copper launch lugs were also very nice. I used 60 minute epoxy throughout construction and ended up with a very strong-seeming rocket.

The AMRAAM, with the exception of the fin problem mentioned above, was very easy to use. The upper fins fit perfectly in their notches, but the lower fins left a small bit of fin slot gap showing. I epoxied a small square of paper over this hole and spread epoxy over it. I sanded it once and now you can't see it, so no big problem. The AMRAAM didn't require any difficult construction techniques or special tools. Because it is promoted as a good mid-power/low-highpower rocket, and therefore a logical first high power rocket, I think the instructions could be made clearer. Overall a very nice kit.

Primed

Finishing:
Finishing this model was not overly-difficult. The G10 fins are already nice and smooth, but the tubes have those nasty spirals which require a lot of filling for a decent finish. I used several coats of grey primer to smooth out imperfections (using white for the nose). In the instructions it tells you to look for decal strips for the colored strips, but I just painted mine on. The decals also proved to be very nice. I have no complaints about the finishing of this rocket.

Construction Rating: 4 out of 5

Flight:
The AMRAAM kit recommends F-H motors. Because of its high weight I would recommend flying it on high thrust F motors (F62, F80), or just sticking with G's and H's.

The first flight was on a G35-7, which worked great. I think that any G or H motor should work fine, except for the really long burn G's (G25, G33) which might not have enough kick for this model.

The AMRAAM is the easiest to prep mid-power rocket I have. Because the piston eliminates the need for recovery wadding, all that is required is to pack and insert the chute. Motor retention on my model consists of an Estes engine hook epoxied on (just like on Estes models). Although this systems sounds and looks simple and actually weak, it works fine. First I get a good solid friction fit with masking tape and make masking tape thrust ring on the rear of the motor, then I insert the motor and wrap the rear of it and the motor mount with masking tape. The masking tape acts as the primary system, with the engine hook as a great backup. On the first launch the AMRAAM's G35 ignited first try. The rocket leaped off the launch pad and went straight up. The 7 second delay was just right with this motor.

Recovery:
The shock cord on the AMRAAM is black flat elastic nylon strap, which attaches to the piston, which in turn attaches to a heavy duty piston-retaining strap. The chute has a large spill hole, but even with this it is near perfect for the AMRAAM. Recovery was a little slow, but overall it was great. The only damage to the rocket was some slight scorching at the base. This was my first mid-power rocket not painted black at the rear, so this was the first time I experienced this. It does give the rocket a sort of battle-worn look which I think is cool.

Flight Rating: 4 ½ out of 5

Summary:
The AMRAAM overall is a great kit. It flies great, is a very strong and durable rocket, and the piston system eliminates recovery wadding. However, the kit doesn't come with motor retention and the fins didn't quite fit right in their slots. None of these were major problems.

The PML AMRAAM was my first PML kit. I normally am against almost all high power kits because most of them require so many replacement parts that they aren't worthwhile. While the AMRAAM has flaws, I still recommend it for those who don't enjoy designing their own rockets.

My only advice for someone building this kit is to add positive motor retention and use a good quick-cure epoxy. Other than that, have fun flying!

Overall Rating: 4 out of 5


Rating
Public Missiles - AMRAAM (2.1")
(Contributed - by Chip Jenkins)

Brief:
Scale air to air missile as manufactured by Hughes. Single stage with parachute recovery.

Rocket Pic

Construction:
The parts were contained in a plastic bag, nothing missing or damaged. This AMRAAM is made with PML's new Quantum Tube. The high strength polymer was a key factor when I purchased this rocket. All of the rest of the materials were typical high quality PML materials. A very sturdy PML style parachute with spill hole, plywood centering rings, plastic nose cone, G-10 fiberglass fins, 96" heavy elastic shock cord, self stick decals, a brass (I think) launch lug, and PML's piston ejection system with a 4 to 5 foot long heavy duty strap.

Rocket Pic

The instructions were comprehensive and logical. They had illustrations where necessary and were very easy to follow. The only potential trouble in assembly would have been the location of the piston strap on the motor tube. The strap must be glue almost perfectly straight on the motor tube or it would interfere with the through-the-wall fin attachment. There is a warning in the instructions concerning location of the strap when placing the motor tube in the airframe.

The slotted quantum tube made it easy to glue the fins on but, I used some lego's to set the rocket on and help align the rear fins to the front fins. Once the fins were on, I removed the rear centering ring (as directed by the instructions) and put epoxy fillets against the motor tube and the inside of the airframe. These will never come out. I used 2 ton epoxy throughout construction.

Finishing:
This was the easiest rocket I have had to paint because of the quantum tube. A light sanding with some 400 grit sand paper with a few coats of primer in between, and it was ready to paint. No serious sanding and no spiral groove. I painted it almost to the instructions, the main airframe was painted medium gray but, I elected to paint the fins white (along with the nose cone). One of the many advantages of the Quantum Tube became evident when the paint was dry, it looked exceptional. I cut out the self stick decals and applied them as directed. Finishing also requires Monocote adhesive that PML claims to be available at most hobby shops and I was able to find it at Tower Hobbies. It was a bit of a challenge to put that on straight but, I got it done. I didn't want to wait for the Monocote (it took me a few weeks to get it) to launch it so, the launch photo is missing the decals.

Construction Rating: 5 out of 5

Rocket PicFlight:
The card that comes with the rocket claims that it will fly on F through H motors. I imagine that it says what the exact motors are somewhere but, I knew that I would be safe with the ones that I chose for the first flights. The maiden flight was on a single use G40-7. The piston system made recovery preparation fast and easy. I have heard that the piston system will bind up over time when the airframe becomes dirty and worn after many uses. The Quantum Tube, I believe, will help here too. It seems to me that it will be easy to clean and it will not cause a binding problem with proper care. The G40 launch was flawless, it screamed off the pad and flew beautifully. The next flight was on a G33 reload with the same exceptional results.

Recovery:
The recovery system worked perfectly, the piston ejected the chute and prevented the ejection gasses from getting to the chute. The day that this AMRAAM flew, there was another one just like it there. The only difference was that on the other AMRAAM lost it's parachute at apogee and the rocket came down with only the shock cord to slow its descent. Apparently, the young guy that brought his AMRAAM forgot to secure the chute prior to launching. However, it was the Quantum Tube to the rescue again. I don't know the altitude it attained but on a G33-7, this thing was up there pretty good and there was NO damage at all. It didn't fall directly on concrete or anything but seriously, how many other rockets could have survived intact? Awesome job, PML!

Flight Rating: 5 out of 5

Summary:
I can't say enough about the quality of this rocket, the Quantum Tube, the construction. It is almost indestructible and it flies great. I don't plan on sending it up without the chute anytime soon so I'm quite sure that it will fly many, many times. If you get a chance to purchase a PML rocket with a Quantum Tube, you will not regret the purchase.

Overall Rating: 5 out of 5


Rating
(by Carl Tulanko - 10/10/01)

Brief:
The PML AMRAAM 2 is a stand-off scale version of the original AMRAAM/Aim-120 used by both the U.S Navy and Air Force as a medium range air to air missile.AMRAAM 2 at the padThe kit is a 2.1” model with a length of 43 inches and clan fly on 29mm motors from F to H class.

Construction:
The kit came in a bag and all the components were included. Kit design is actually very simple and straight forward; included were the nosecone, Quantum body tube pre-slotted for fins, G-10 fiberglass fins, centering rings, 29mm motor mount tube, piston kit, 24” ripstop nylon parachute, tubular nylon shock cord and all the hardware. This is a superb quality kit, using the best components commercially available. The body tube is made of PML’s “Quantum” tubing, approximately 1/16” thick plastic, somewhat flexible/forgiving and smooth with no spirals. A quality set of decals also came with the kit, along with an easy to follow instruction manual. The instruction manual was very good and step-by-step construction went well.

Component Rating: 5 of 5

Epoxy (15 minute) was used throughout the construction, which begins with the assembly of the motor mount. Make sure you use at least 80 grit sandpaper to rough up all surfaces to be glued. The motor mount procedures require you glue a ¾” wide black nylon shock strap to the side of the tube. I glazed mine with epoxy for added strength once the initial epoxy had set. IMPORTANT: Make sure when you install the motor mount in the body tube that you position the shock strap BETWEEN two fin slots, otherwise the strap will not allow one of your through-the-wall mounted fins to fit flush against the motor mount tube. This is noted in the instructions, but is in small text and it’s a point that you need to follow. Do not use the “Scotch tape” method on the rear centering ring as they suggest. Trust me, the tape just breaks off. I installed the motor mount and the rear centering ring without tape, then, once the glue was set at the top, I used a metal ruler through the fin slot to push the lower centering ring back out. Much easier to do than tape.

Once the motor mount is complete, you need to glue in each fin. Use an alignment jig or measure to make sure each fin is straight and perpendicular. Also, insure you rough up the outside of the motor mount and inside of the body tube in the area of the fin slots for fillets or glassing later. Note, I used 80 grit sandpaper on all parts of the plastic AMRAAM 2 rear centering ring Quantum body tube for roughing up an area prior to gluing. It has more bite than the suggested 120 grit and cuts deeper grooves for a good glue joint. Additionally, I roughed up the outer surface of the body tube from about 1” forward of the lower fin slots to the tail, as I planned on fiberglassing the lower fins for strength.

Lower fins are glued on next; I put a small amount of epoxy on the edge of a fin, then inserted it through the fin slot and allowed its own weight to hold it down on the motor tube. Once all four fins were glued, I cut 1 ½” wide strips of 2 oz. fiberglass cloth to the length of each fin, then glassed the space from the motor mount to the fin and inner body tube. Soaking the cloth in epoxy then folding it around a ½” wide stick allowed me to insert it into the tube, then the stick was used to make sure the cloth was pressed down on all surfaces. This added strength inside the body tube like you cannot believe, as I have had these fins break clean off in colder weather without glassing on these PML kits. I now glass all my fins and it pays off!!!

Next step is to glue on the upper fins, which went well. Once all 8 fins were glued, I fiberglassed the lower 4 fins using 1 ½ oz. cloth and 15 minute epoxy. I ran the cloth from about 1 ½” up one fin, down and across the body tube and up the other fin about 1 ½”. FYI: using this method I haveAMRAAM 2 piston NEVER broken a fin out of the slot, as had happened before on PML kits as small as 2” without fiberglassing. If you fly on any kind of hard surface or in the winter, fiberglass your rocket’s fins. Piston assembly is next on the list; PML uses a unique “piston” ejection system which is really slick and works well. You can prep a rocket in a flash without having to mess with wadding as the piston protects the parachute and shock cord from the heat of ejection. The piston assembly is glued to the other end of the ¾” black strap, which comes from the motor mount. I used a spare coupler to thicken the piston prior to assembly though, by cutting the coupler to the correct length, then slotting it vertically and fitting it INSIDE the piston. This gives you a “double wall” thick piston assembly as the single phenolic piston can become quite thin from sanding to fit inside the body tube. Once assembled, I glazed the wood surfaces inside and out with epoxy. This waterproofs the wood and allows for easy clean up after a day’s flight.

Launch lug placement instructions are supplied in the kit, and the lug consists of a single ¼” brass tube. Make sure that you rough up the gluing area with sandpaper before mounting the lug. Next, I applied fillets to each fin side and the sides of the launch lug. I applied a small filet to each of the upper fins just for safety. The center fins actually never touch the ground on landing, so they have no stress applied, but the lower fins do make contact, so these fillets are a good size.

Construction Rating: 4 ½ out of 5

Finishing:
White Krylon primer was applied prior to the first sanding and I used 100 grit to cut away any excess AMRAAM 2 stripes epoxy resin left from the fiberglassing and to blend in the cloth seams. Use an electric sander in the glassed area, which cuts through the epoxy nicely and blends glass seams well . A few more coats of primer were added, then I wet sanded with 220 grit, then 400 grit. Once the primer was finished, the Quantum body tubes and fins paint like a dream!

Light Gray Gloss Krylon paint was used on the body tube and fins, which left a nice and smooth surface to apply decals. The nosecone was done in Krylon Gloss White. I used Testors Gloss Navy Blue, Gold and Yellow for the 1” stripes and used a piece of Monokote self stick Chrome for the silver section. Once all decals were applied, I used TopFlite Clear Dullcoat for the flat military look. Do not use Testors Dullcoat; it leaves dirt and fingerprints like crazy which cannot be cleaned. The TopFlite can be found at any R/C hobby shop and is waterproof, alcohol proof and cleans easily. When applying the dullcoat, you must use light “dusting” layers; the Testors stripes you painted will orange peel if you put it on too thick. I had to re-do my yellow stripe for this reason, learned my lesson, and the rest of the rocket came out great. Just use light coats and it will dullcoat fine.

Finally, shock cord and parachute were attached per the instructions. Don’t forget to tack glue your knots with a drop of epoxy. I did purchase and add a 1” steel link so I could easily remove the parachute from the shock cord.

Finish: 5 of 5

Flight:
My first rocket weighed in at 27.2 oz., about 3 ounces heavier than the manufacturer's indicated weight. I can account for the extra weight though and attribute it to glassing and fillets.

Note that this article was written several months after the build process, so all tips on fiberglassing were the result of my experiences; due to the extra beefing up of my replacement A2, the weight increased to an even 32 oz., 5 oz. more than the first AMRAAM 2. This was due to the fact that I had to add about 3 oz. of nose weight to compensate for the extra fiberglassing in the tail section; it brought the CG right on for motors up through an H180.

This was my first High Power model and I planned on using it for my Level 1 TRA certification. I had to sand the outside of the piston so it slid easily inside the body tube, so make sure you fit the piston to your tube before flight. Also note that the Quantum tubing, as nice as it is, does shrink in diameter under colder temperatures. This is not a problem if you prepare for it. Also, drill a 1/8” pressure relief hole in the body tube below the nose cone seat and always check nose cone tightness. My first A2 has just recently been permanently retired due to a nose cone popping off in mid-flight under H power…a sad sight indeed. The good news is another A2 is completed and has been flown as listed below.

My first launch was on a H128W with a medium delay. The rocket was prepped and motor installed. I did purchase and install the PMR motor retainer prior to its first flight and recommend this to everyone that builds the kit. Also, when loading the motor case, do NOT use all the black powder ejection charge. The piston ejection system actually requires less ejection charge and PML includes a chart for reference when loading the charge.

The rocket was placed on the pad and then came the moment. The AMRAAM 2 took off the pad like a bullet, extremely fast, loud and very straight. It was an awesome launch, with the sound and white smoke billowing out the tail, I knew I was hooked in this hobby for good! It was a bit windy and very cold, around 25 degrees, but the model kept its track to apogee.

Recovery:
The parachute deployed at apogee and the rocket appeared to land just fine, but landed nearly ¼ mile away, so the long walk was on. I trekked through the frozen plowed field and when I approached the rocket, I was delighted to see it appeared to be in good condition. However, when I picked it up, I saw the bad news; it had landed just right to where the lower fin NOT facing up had broken clean out of the model, along with part of the body tubing between two lower fins. I found the fin on the frozen mud about six feet away and made the slow depressing walk back. The prefect was all ready to sign my L1, but I stopped him and showed him the damage. This was a two day event so there was still tomorrow….

I rushed home after the launch was over and began fiberglassing and repairing the lower section. By the next day the AMRAAM 2 was ready for a second attempt, Still in white primer where the glassing was performed, I prepped it once again, but with a little more experience and confidence. It was another beautiful launch, amazingly fast, and good deployment. This time the wind was down and it landed only about 150 feet away; it was still a cold 22 degrees though but I thought it just HAD to hold up this time. Note that at those temperatures, the ground is like concrete. I approached the rocket and was ecstatic to realize my glassing job made the rocket strong as steel and it landed without a scratch. I got my Level 1 TRA cert that day and since then, have been glassing all my kits. Maybe it’s overkill, but my new rule of thumb is “Stronger is Better”…especially with HPR.

Flight Rating: 5 out of 5

Summary:
The PML AMRAAM 2 is a superb quality kit that flies like a dream! I do highly recommend you glass your fins though, especially for cold weather flying. Also, do not forget the pressure relief hole needs to be drilled in the body tube and isn’t documented. I have learned much since my first AMRAAM 2, a kit I will remember for a lifetime, as it has opened up the entire world of High Power Rocketry to me. The new replacement A2 recently flew on a F50T-6 SU and, with the added weight, I need to upgrade the parachute to 36 inches as it landed fast, but without damage. It has all the tricks I have learned since then on building strong incorporated in it , as I wish to keep this one for quite some time. In summary, if you want a great kit at a good price for HPR, the PML AMRAAM 2 will do the job for you and make a fine addition to your fleet!

Overall Rating: 4 ½ out of 5

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GUEST's OPINION:
05/06 - "This was my third PML kit and HPR. Great kit. Had some 38mm tube laying around and couldn't help myself. Upgraded motor mount to 38mm, foamed area that was left in can and installed a slimline eng retainer and slimline 38/29 adapter. Very solid and stable flyer. Superb quality materials too." (H.D.C.)

GUEST's OPINION:
10/01 - "Last October, I flew the Amraam 2 on a G motor and somehow the nose/chute and the body separated (my fault I am sure). I never found the nose/chute but I did find the body; stuck in a tree. It stayed there all winter and I was fortunate to recover it in May this year. I replaced the nose, three canard wings, one main wing, shockcord and chute. The Quantum tube developed a small crack near the motor mount and I glassed that over. The Amraam flew in July this year on an F motor ? the flight was perfect. I cannot think of any other kit that would withstand a Chicago winter and come back like this. This was my first PML kit. Now I have six others." (D.J.D.)

GUEST's OPINION:
09/00 - "I found the kit to be an excellent value and performer. The high quality of the materials supplied makes for a quick building and truly rugged model. The flights are straight and exciting and the rocket deploys very well. I found that neither the Quantum tubing nor the piston tubing are perfectly round. I tested the fit by sliding the assembled piston into the body tube while turning the piston until I found the smoothest operation. Then using a permanent marker, mark the body tube and piston assembly so you can always prep the rocket with the piston in that orientation. I also place some cellulose wadding between the motor and piston, as well as some talc. The body tube can be cleaned of ejection charge residue with a damp towel or wet wipe. I was initially skeptic of the 24" parachute with the spill hole. It seemed too small for a rocket of this size and weight, however, because of the strength of the components used my model has sustained no damage to date other than some paint scuffs. My favorite motor for the rocket is a G35-7 Econojet. Ejection is a fraction of a second after apogee. On the rockets first flight it landed in a drainage ditch filled with muck and frogs. Although completely submerged and filled with slime, I was able to hose it down and dry it off with out any damage. Try that with a cardboard tube!" (T.B.)

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Date Name Motor Ejection/
Altitude
Wind Notes
05-03-2006 Hank Coates AT EconoJet G38-7 Very Late Calm - First launch on Amraam, used a Slimline 38/29 adapter and a slimline motor mount for motor retention. AT G38-7FJ, Very stable boost, great black smoketrail, 7 seconds much too long a delay, landed without a scratch anyway.
05-21-2006 Hank Coates AT SU G80-4 Very Early 0-5 mph winds - Very quick launch. Straight up and stable. 4 seconds too little a delay, 6 is probably ideal. Recovered w/in 150 yds. Not a scratch. Sims to about 1100 feet.
06-04-2006 Hank Coates AT SU G80-7 Apogee - NC Down 10+ mph winds Event: Southern Thunder
- Nice flt, perfect for this rocket.Est 1400 ft. Good shute, no damage.
06-04-2006 Hank Coates AT SU G80-7 Apogee - Perfect 0-5 mph winds Event: Southern Thunder
- Nice motor for this rocket. Great, straight boost, nice coast. Perfect eject and soft landing.
06-05-2006 Hank Coates AT RMS G75-7 Apogee - Perfect Light winds Event: Southern Thunder
- GRRReat motor for this rocket. Straight up boost w/ awesome black trail. Perfect recovery w/ short walk.
01-17-2010 Howie Druckerman AT RMS G64-7 Very Late
(300 ft)
Light winds - At about 300 feet it became unstable and then ejected about 30 feet off the ground
02-26-2005 Warren Evans AT RMS G64-7 Apogee - NC Down 5-10 mph winds - Ya Got to love this Rocket Its tough and It flys awsome on a G-64. I cant wait to go to an H load
02-26-2005 Warren Evans AT RMS G64-7 Apogee - NC Up 5-10 mph winds - loaded it and flew it agian. Awesome just plain awesome
08-20-2005 Warren Evans AT RMS G64-7 Apogee - NC Down 5-10 mph winds RIP - It went in to a river when the wind changed and it was a sad day and I lost my favorite mid power rocket Status: Lost
08-10-2002 David Fergus AT RMS F40-7 Apogee - Perfect 5-10 mph winds - great first flight
12-12-2002 John Fernandez AT SU F50-4 Just Past (1-2sec) 5-10 mph winds - Nice 1st flight,the 24inch drogue chute was perfect for the windy conditions- recovered 75 to 100yrds from launch site with no damage.Will switch to a 18inch Top Flight chute if it's calm next time.
12-21-2002 John Fernandez AT RMS H128-10 Didn't See 10+ mph winds - NAR Lvl-1 Cert flight. Tricky but successful flight. H128W in this bird is a monster. Not for the faint hearted! Cert Flight: L1
08-22-2003 Taylor Jessee AT EconoJet F23-4 Apogee - NC Up 0-5 mph winds - Nice!
05-15-2005 Taylor Jessee AT RMS H128-M Apogee - NC Down 5-10 mph winds - It went super fast glad I had benalculars to watch it go up other wise i would of lost it out of sight!First H-flight in the amraam.
08-29-2008 Taylor Jessee AT RMS H180-M Apogee - Perfect 10+ mph winds Event: LDRS 27
- Took off really fast and high!!!
08-31-2008 Taylor Jessee AT RMS H220-M Apogee - NC Down 10+ mph winds Event: LDRS 27
- Love these 29/240 motors!!!
08-31-2008 Taylor Jessee AT RMS H250-M Apogee - NC Down 10+ mph winds Event: LDRS 27
- Really fast! saw it all the way up and down, but when going to look for it it became a problem. It played the trick of landing a lot further than expected.
04-19-2001 Arthur Johnson AT RMS F40-8 Just Past (1-2sec) 5-10 mph winds A2 - Only flight of the day not effected by wind. Good boost and rapid but safe landing. Will try on bigger engine at Whitakers, NC.
04-19-2001 Arthur Johnson AT RMS G33-5 Just Past (1-2sec) 5-10 mph winds A2 - Again, concerned with winds and low impulse engine. This rocket didn't let me down. Slight arc in wind late in cost phase and a great recovery.
05-26-2001 Arthur Johnson AT EconoJet G35-5 Apogee - NC Up 5-10 mph winds - Yet another impressive flight. With a WL G, I think a longer delay might be a bit better when flying in a smaller field.
06-03-2001 Arthur Johnson AT RMS G33-7 Very Late 0-5 mph winds - Yet another great flight on a G-33 (slow and high). 7 Sec. delay was a bit too long for my tast. Stick with the G33-5's
07-03-2004 Nate Jones AT RMS G33-7 Apogee - Perfect Calm Event: LDRS-23
- Maiden flight was great (also my first mid power flight). I built relatively light and the 7-second delay was perfect. This is a great bird, should keep flying for a long time!
11-07-2004 Nate Jones AT RMS G33-7 Apogee - NC Down 5-10 mph winds - Another great flight... recovered ~40ft from pad. Cant wait to fly her on a G64.
12-19-1999 Brett Keller AT RMS F52-5 Apogee - NC Up Calm - Perfect flight. My model is a little underweight because of nose weight for H motors, but it still really moved on the Blue Thunder motor. Awesome!
12-19-1999 Brett Keller AT RMS G64-7 Very Early Calm - The motor suffered a blow-by because I forgot to tape up the delay liner, so the chute deployed at burnout. Minor damage to the top of the tube and the shock cord mount got pulled out, but not too hard to repair.
01-11-2004 Mike Kimbler AT RMS G64-4 Apogee - Perfect 0-5 mph winds - Great flight
01-31-2004 Mike Kimbler AT EconoJet F20-7 Apogee - Perfect 5-10 mph winds - Great flight
01-31-2004 Mike Kimbler AT SU F25-9 Apogee - NC Down 5-10 mph winds - Great flight
03-13-2004 Mike Kimbler AT RMS F40-4 Apogee - NC Down 0-5 mph winds - Great flight
04-17-2004 Mike Kimbler AT RMS F52-5 Just Before 5-10 mph winds Event: SoAR SpringFest
- Good flight
09-03-2005 Mike Kimbler AT RMS G64-7 Apogee - NC Down 10+ mph winds Event: Freedom Launch
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09-02-2006 Mike Kimbler RoadR SU G80-7 Apogee - Perfect Calm Event: Freedom Launch 2006
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01-10-2004 Stephen Kiss AT EconoJet G35-4 Just Before 10+ mph winds Bad Attitude - Straight boost to about 1500 ft. Switched to short delay (too short). Recovered about 250 yds from launch. No damage. Good small field motor for this rocket.
01-10-2004 Stephen Kiss AT SU F25-6 Very Late 10+ mph winds Bad Attitude - Super straight flight, very little weather cock, bonus delay, scary ejection at about 300 feet. drifted back to launch area, slammed into side of vendors trailer, no damage.
01-17-2004 Stephen Kiss AT RMS G64-10 Very Late 10+ mph winds Bad Attitude - Good straight boost. Delay WAY too long. Deployed chute at about 200 ft. Don't go by PML charts for delays on this rocket. Needs short delays. 2 canards loosened by shock cord on deployment.
02-21-2004 Stephen Kiss AT SU F25-4 Just Before 5-10 mph winds Bad Attitude - Nice easy boost to about 1200 ft. Landed on road. Popped fillet on one main fin. No problem to repair.
03-13-2004 Stephen Kiss AT RMS H128-7 Just Before 5-10 mph winds Bad Attitude - Repaired fillet. Launched under my fathers name to use H motor. Jumped off pad straight up to about 2500 ft. Recovered about 150yds from pad. No damage. Great motor for this rocket. Needs longer delay.
04-10-2004 Stephen Kiss AT RMS H128-10 Just Past (1-2sec) 0-5 mph winds Bad Attitude - FAST straight boost to about 2500ft., chute out just past apogee, landed about 100ft. from pad. Small cracks in two fillets, repairable
04-17-2004 Stephen Kiss AT RMS G33-5 Very Late 10+ mph winds Bad Attitude - Good easy flight to about 1500ft., nice black smoke trail, Ejection was very late, about 1/2 way back down, landed about 400ft. from pad. Found crack in fillet on one lower fin, repairable
05-08-2004 Stephen Kiss AT RMS H180-10 Apogee - NC Down 5-10 mph winds Bad Attitude - Awesome high fast flight to about 2500-3000ft, good deployment at apogee, landed about 1/4 mile from pad, long walk but worth it for awesome flight, no damage
06-12-2004 Stephen Kiss AT RMS H180-10 Apogee - NC Down 0-5 mph winds Bad Attitude - Another awesome fast flight to over 3000ft, good deploy at apogee, landed about 200yds from pad, no damage
11-20-2004 Stephen Kiss AT RMS H128-10 Just Past (1-2sec) Calm Bad Attitude - Great flight, this rocket is a neck snapper with this motor, ejection just after apogee, landed about 200 ft from pad, no damage
04-09-2005 Stephen Kiss AT RMS H180-10 Apogee - Perfect 10+ mph winds Bad Attitude - great fast flight, over 3000 ft, landed about 200 yds from pad, cracked off one canard, easy repair
06-18-2005 Stephen Kiss AT RMS H165-10 Apogee - Perfect 5-10 mph winds Bad Attitude - Another great, high flight for this little rocket, at least 3000 ft. ejection perfect at apogee, landed about 200 yds from pad, had to hunt a little in tall weeds, no damage
07-16-2005 Stephen Kiss AT RMS H128-10 Apogee - Perfect 0-5 mph winds Bad Attitude - Another great flight for this little rocket, about 3000 ft, ejection perfect at apogee, landed about 200 yds from pad, no damage Cert Flight: L1
09-17-2005 Stephen Kiss AT RMS H165-10 Just Past (1-2sec) 5-10 mph winds Bad Attitude - Another screaming fast flight for this great little rocket, had to be well over 3,000 ft, ejection slightly late, landed about 200 yds from pad, no damage
10-09-2005 Stephen Kiss AT RMS H165-10 Apogee - NC Down 0-5 mph winds Bad Attitude - Another super fast flight, this is a great rocket for the small H motors, 3000-3500 ft, deployment perfect, landed about 150 yds from pad, no damage
12-10-2005 Stephen Kiss AT RMS H128-10 Apogee - Perfect 0-5 mph winds Bad Attitude - Another great flight, out of sight(well almost), landed about 200 yds from pad, no damage
01-28-2006 Stephen Kiss AT RMS H238-10 Apogee - Perfect 10+ mph winds Bad Attitude - Another great flight, blinked and missed lift off, super fast, ejection perfect at apogee, landed about 1/3 mile down wind, no damage
03-11-2006 Stephen Kiss AT RMS H238-10 Apogee - Perfect 5-10 mph winds Bad Attitude - Another screaming high flight, this has become the leading abuse taker in the fleet, ejection at apogee, landed about 300 yds from pad, no damage
04-15-2006 Stephen Kiss AT RMS H165-10 Apogee - NC Down 0-5 mph winds Bad Attitude - Another don't blink moment, great straight flight, ejection perfect just after arc over, landed about 300 yds from pad, no damage
07-02-2006 Stephen Kiss AT RMS H165-10 Apogee - Perfect Calm Event: SCIPower 2006
Bad Attitude - Another great fast flight from this rocket, ejection perfect at apogeee, good chute, landed about 100 yds from pad, no damage
11-11-2006 Stephen Kiss AT RMS H238-10 Apogee - Perfect 0-5 mph winds Event: Bunnell Blast
Bad Attitude - Another fast high flight for this little rocket, ejection perfect at apogee, landed about 200 yds from pad, one upper fin off, repairable
08-11-2007 Stephen Kiss AT RMS H180-10 Apogee - Perfect 5-10 mph winds Bad Attitude - Another screaming flight, great little rocket just keeps coming back for more abuse, landed about 300 yds from pad, no damage
02-09-2008 Stephen Kiss AT RMS H128-10 Apogee - Perfect 5-10 mph winds Bad Attitude - Another screaming high flight, had to be near 3000-3500, ejection right at apogee, landed about 150 yds from pad, no damage
04-12-2008 Stephen Kiss AT RMS H238-10 Apogee - Perfect 10+ mph winds Bad Attitude - Another screaming fast flight for this little rocket, ejection at apogee, landed about 300 yds from pad, no damage
05-21-2006 Paul Klicin NCR SU F62-6 Just Past (1-2sec) 0-5 mph winds - 4th launch of AMRAAM2 using NCR F62-6 Dark Star motor.Delay may be a little long by about 1-2s but each launch has been perfect. I love this motor.Nice black smoke plume and a real crowd pleaser.
05-21-2006 Paul Klicin AT SU G80-7 Didn't See 0-5 mph winds - 2nd Flight using this motor.Loud & Lightning fast.Nice flame.Forgot about forward retentention on 1st flight & motor thrusted forward slightly losing valuable thrust time before jamming & lifting the rocket.
09-03-2006 Paul Klicin AT RMS G33-7 Just Past (1-2sec) 0-5 mph winds - First launch on a G33-7J RMS.Perfect flight! So high I almost lost site of it. A real crowd pleaser. Delay grain was slightly drilled out 1.6mm with a 3/16th drill bit(by hand)to reduce delay slightly.(May not have been necessary)
02-06-2005 Ethan Kosoof AT RMS H180-10 Didn't See 5-10 mph winds - monster motor for this kit,flew as straight as an arrow with a flame that was probably bigger than the rocket.3800ft altitude,was recovered 1.2 k's away.no damage, but a long walk!
02-05-2006 Ethan Kosoof AT RMS H180-M Just Past (1-2sec) 5-10 mph winds - Nice launch, LOTS of noise. Drifted a long way and took 2 hours to recover. eventually turned up in the place we had already searched 1/2 a dozen times
08-25-2002 Joe Lardear AT EconoJet F20-7 Very Late 5-10 mph winds - First flight so used small engine. Ejection delay much too long - almost a lawndart. Bounced and loosened canard fin. A very tough rocket.
05-21-2005 Philip Levanda AT RMS G64-7 Just Past (1-2sec) Gusty Event: NEPRA
- First Flight for this rocket. Winds pushed it into a tree about 15 feet up. Had to hook the fins with a dead branch and pull it down lol. Took a few tries but I got it back with zero damage
07-30-2005 Philip Levanda AT RMS F22-5 Very Late Calm Event: GSSS 07-30-05
- Very very late!! took about half an hour to fish out of a tree. If it was made of anything but quantum tube it would have zippered to the MMT.
06-18-2005 Layne Pemberton AT RMS F40-4 Apogee - NC Down 0-5 mph winds The Gray One Over There - My first PML kit and I am hooked on their products. She flew great, with just a bit of a wobble from Launch Rod Whip, arched over perfectly and ejected as advertised. Captured by a stubby Tree Monster but was saved.
09-21-2003 Kenny Powell AT EconoJet F20-4 Didn't Record 5-10 mph winds Event: Texas High Power
- Good motor for small fields. Have flown it mant times on the motor configuration. Maybe around a thousand feet? Still very fun.
07-14-2001 Chuck Rudy AT RMS G64-7 Apogee - Perfect 0-5 mph winds - Hooked off the rod. Popped a half mile downrange. Took three days to find. Hit a rock and damaged two canards and one main fin. Repairs took an hour.
12-04-2001 Chuck Rudy AT SU G80-7 Apogee - Perfect Calm - Perfect flight, squirted off the pad nicely and drifted 100 yards from the pad with no damage.
07-04-2002 Chuck Rudy AT RMS G64-7 Didn't See 5-10 mph winds - For, what has been, an ill behaving rocket this launch was perfectly straight. The only change was a $2 igniter....it must have helped build the pressure in a hurry as it was fast off the rod!
03-16-2002 David Tallon AT RMS G33-5 Just Past (1-2sec) 0-5 mph winds - Nice motor for the A2. Straight as an arrow and the black smoke trail was very cool. Perfect recovery 40 feet from launch pad. Great little rocket for those wanting to enter mid/high power rocketry.
04-25-2010 Ken Tsai AT RMS F52-5 Apogee - NC Up Calm - First flight for this rocket. Nice easy flight to maybe 1000 ft.
02-17-2001 Carl Tulanko AT RMS H128-10 Didn't See 10+ mph winds - Tripoli Level 1 Cert flight. SCREAMED off the pad! Deployed chute...cold 24 degrees outside, broke fin on landing...Glassed all fins that nite Cert Flight: L1
02-18-2001 Carl Tulanko AT RMS H128-10 Didn't See
(2700 ft)
10+ mph winds - Tripoli Level 1 Cert Flight #2 - SUCCESS. H128W is a monster off the pad! Good deploy, @2700 feet altitude; fiberglassing fins worked great! won't crack in cold now. Cert Flight: L1
03-24-2001 Carl Tulanko AT RMS F52-8 Apogee - Perfect 10+ mph winds - Another great flight; model landed closer this time. Convinced friend to fly hi A3 fir his TRA L1 Cert. He got it. Cert Flight: L1
03-24-2001 Carl Tulanko AT RMS F52-8 Apogee - Perfect 10+ mph winds - Great flight. nice low level motor for this rocket. Altitude was about 1100'. Landed about 300 yards away. Rod Angle 5 degrees
03-25-2001 Carl Tulanko AT RMS H128-10 Apogee - Perfect 0-5 mph winds - Man, this reload had to be made just for this rocket! Off the pad like a bullet, nice smoke trail. Good recovery.
04-14-2001 Carl Tulanko AT RMS G64-7 Very Early 0-5 mph winds A2 - Nice flight but a bit rocky. Ejection happened early, probably a blow by. Landed well but broke a center fin off, which hit a rock in the field on landing. Nosecone damaged too near base.
04-14-2001 Carl Tulanko AT RMS H128-M Apogee - Perfect 0-5 mph winds A2 - Calmer during this launch. Still takes off like it was shot from a cannon. Good flight and landing.
04-14-2001 Carl Tulanko AT RMS H128-M Apogee - Perfect 5-10 mph winds A2 - Another great launch on this motor. It really leaves the pad in a hurry. Very impressive, wish I had room for an Altimeter to record flight data. Perfect landing
10-12-2001 Carl Tulanko AT SU F50-7 Apogee - Perfect
(1000 ft)
0-5 mph winds A2 - First launch for replacement A2. Weighed in at 32.3 oz. Excellent flight, @1000 feet. 24 chute too small but landed without a scratch
11-17-2001 Carl Tulanko AT RMS H128-10 Apogee - Perfect 0-5 mph winds A2 - First HPR flight for Replacement A2. Left the pad like a bullet on steroids! Perfect flight and landing. Upgraded to 30 parachute and it worked well.
11-18-2001 Carl Tulanko AT RMS H128-10 Apogee - Perfect 0-5 mph winds - New Model;weighed at 32oz. Left the pad like a Bullet on Steroids! The A2 is AWSOME with a H128W!!! Perfect ejection, approx 2600' altitude and landed safely.
12-08-2001 Carl Tulanko AT RMS H128-10 Apogee - Perfect Calm A2 - Excellent flight; a real show stopper. Still amazed at how loud those 29mm H loads are. Perfect recovery.
09-11-2004 Mark Van+Luvender AT RMS G64-7 Apogee - Perfect 5-10 mph winds - Great flight! Quick off the pad, landed about 100 yards away. Time for a G75...
06-01-2007 Mark Van+Luvender AT RMS G77-7 Apogee - Perfect 5-10 mph winds Event: NSL 2007
- Actually a G71 (29mm/40-120 casing) flight. Ripping motor! Great flame, great flight from top to bottom!
06-03-2007 Mark Van+Luvender AT RMS G77-7 Just Before 10+ mph winds Event: NSL 2007
- Another G71 (40-120 case) flight! I loooove this motor! I had built this motor as a booster for my Cosmodrome Aerobee Hi and drilled the delay a bit, so I knew it was going to be early.
06-13-2004 Tony Whitney AT RMS H165-M Apogee - NC Up
(2700 ft)
5-10 mph winds Event: ROCstock Lucerne CA
- Fast and mean, love those redline motors with there red flame. I recommend drilling a 1/8 inch hole below the nosecone to relieve internal pressure to keep nosecone from separating during launch. With a H165 don't blink or you will miss the flight !!!!
   

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