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REV 2.4 - Tue Aug 17 08:36:31 2010

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Rocket Vision
Six-Pack
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SPECS: 13" x 1.2" - 4.5 oz
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REC'D MOTORS: E15-7, F72-10, G55-10

[Picture](06/02/01) I purchased another Rugged-Rocket, the Rocket Vision Six-Pack, to have built and fly on a vacation in Arizona . . . right after which it was announced that Rocket Vision was going out of business. Oh, well, I'll go ahead and give it a quick review and add it to my newest comparison page on Tube-Fin rockets.

See my Tube-Fin Rocket Comparison Page

I never had a Tube-Finned rocket in my youth but gave it a try a few years ago with a Rogue Hex Courier and really liked it. But it was the Custom Serval that I really enjoyed. I bought the Six-Pack with the hopes of having the same fun and gaining a heavier model that could take some flying abuse.

Rocket PicThe Six-Pack follows the same pattern of all the Rugged-Rockets including a single thick, phenolic body tube, with a motor tube insert, a plastic nose cone, a Kevlar® shockcord, parachute protector and parachute. For fins the Six-Pack has six thick, phenolic tubes pre-cut at a slight angle. Nice looking. What this rocket had over my first Rocket Vision rocket, the Solar Venture, was a motor retention system which consisted of a motor hook that was sandwiched between the body tube and the motor insert.

CONSTRUCTION:

Assembly of the Six-Pack was straight-forward and very easy. The instructions were on a single 8.5" x 11" page. They were in logical order, but no illustrations. The only illustration for assembly purposes was on an extra piece of paper that showed how the motor retention was added.

Shockcord installation, is really the only part of this rocket kit that I don't like. Rocket Vision provided a small piece of cardboard that the Kevlar® shock cord is mounted to the inside of the body tube with. You tie a knot in the Kevlar®, slot the cardboard, and glue the cardboard into the rocket body tube with the Kevlar® sandwiched between the cardboard and the body tube. It positions the shock cord like an Estes' 3-fold paper mount does with one exception: the Kevlar® knot sticks out. Is this a big deal, yes! With the small diameter body tube and having to pack in the parachute protector and parachute, this knot gets in the way. I would suggest two things: 1) don't use the knot, and/or 2) use enough epoxy to bury it and make it a large smoothed out bump in the body tube. I cut my knot off after 3 flights.

Finishing is a dream. No spirals! All you really have to worry about it how smooth your epoxy junctures are. The kit comes with water-transfer decals but I did not use them.

Overall, for CONSTRUCTION I would rate this kit 4 points. Just don't like that shockcord mount and the instructions could use illustrations to reach a larger group of modelers . . . kind of a moot point now.

FLIGHT/RECOVERY:

Rocket Vision provided the following Motor Selection guide in the instructions:

  • D12-7 - 765 feet
  • E28-8 - 2,770 feet
  • F72-10 - 2,638 feet
  • G55-10 - 3,450

Don't Lose it!I was pleased to get the rocket in the air during our vacation to Arizona. I had to buy the motors at the launch and it being an AHPRA launch there were not many choices for smaller, 24mm motors. But I did purchase some E28-7's.

The first launch was nice on the E28. It punched off the pad and I was able to follow it for the full flight. I could tell it was still travelling upward when the ejection charge fired. Descent was fine and I recovered the rocket within 100 yards of the pad. I was fortunate not to lose my RMS Casing, it appeared that the ejection charge pushed it past the motor retention clip. A nice reminder for me to always use tape or a tie-wrap to make that motor hook stay on the casing. I lost one this way when I was first getting into RMS.

My next opportunity to fly was back home so I made a decision to convert this rocket into an 18mm motor. After all, flying a foot-long rocket to 1/2 mile high does increase your chances of losing it and since it couldn't be replaced I wanted to keep it around. I glued an 18mm motor mount into the existing 24mm and bent the motor retention pin to hold the 18mm motor.

Oh, for you folks that love altitude, it's not so bad. Here's what 18mm motors can do:

Motor Selection

The next two flights were on C6-3's and were quite enjoyable. The second flight on the C6-3 didn't have a full parachute deployment. It was pushed out of the body, but the parachute never unfurled and the rocket dropped into some taller grass without damage, holding up to its trademark of being a "Rugged Rocket".

For FLIGHT/RECOVERY, I would rate this kit 5 points. Easily converted to an 18mm flier (just use an adaptor if you don't want to make it permanent) for enjoyment in the smaller fields. Solid and stable flights.

Overall, the Six-Pack is good rocket for someone looking for a Tube-Fin. Altitudes of over 3,000 feet or as low as 200 feet allow for the variation that many look for. Too bad we can't get them any more! I give the kit an OVERALL rating of 4 ½ points.


Rating
(Contributed- by R J Talley)

Rocket PicI just finished building the Six-Pack by Rocket Vision. For those who aren't familiar with it, it uses the same body tube/nose cone/recovery system as their Mach Buster. The difference is in the six tubular fins that provide guidance.

I ordered one of these for two reasons: One, because like all of the other rockets in their fleet, it is really hard-core rugged. I expect to be able to fly it scores of times before it needs repair. This leads me to my second reason, it becomes very economical as the number of flights eats away at the initial sunk costs of labor and material. I do aerospace summer camps and travel around to different schools putting on these programs. I'll fly 15 or so rockets in a 90 minute session. Since I do 10 of these programs in a five day period, I need rockets that will remain functional throughout the week. So far, Rocket Vision rockets are the only rockets capable of doing that.

Now down to the building process. The box arrived via USPS in about three days time (WA to CA). A close examination of the contents showed all parts present and ready for assembly. I also noted that the instructions for this kit still carry the Impulse Aerospace labeling. No problem in that, just a point of interest. Next, a quick review of the instructions showed that, for the most part, if you were new to rocketry, this kit would not be a good thing for you to cut your teeth on as I shall explain.

The details consisted of an 11 X 17 inch sheet; on one side you have an exploded diagram of the rocket and eight little paragraphs describing the assembly process for each of the components. The diagram was excellent and the paragraphs were clear and readily understandable. The reverse side of the sheet listed the company policy or mission statement, a HUGE disclaimer that in a nutshell says, "we built a good and safe product but cannot warranty that your mom and dad did the same, be safe!", warranty information, a list of kit contents, tools required, some flight instructions and a very readable statement of the NAR model rocket safety code. All-in-all, everything an experienced modeler needs and nothing more.

For a novice, the kit lacks the reassuring assembly photos that come in Estes type kits. Not a big problem really; certainly no problem at all for the builder with several rockets under his/her belt. There is also not much information on the use of assembly jigs or other such tricks. That would be helpful here because getting the cylinders/fins aligned and held in place until the glue sets is not easy unless you know a thing or two. Again, this is why I say that Novice builders may have difficulty with this kit.

Finally, it should be noted that while the materials list includes reference to both 5 and 20 minute epoxy, the instructions fail to tell the builder where to use one and not the other. In fact, in the assembly paragraphs, no mention of which type of adhesive to use is made at all. Nor is there any mention of filleting these tubes though the picture that accompanies the instructions shows fillets between the fin tubes. As an experienced builder, I know that the 5 minute stuff is for fixing the tubes in place and the 20 minute is for filleting. however, I recommend putting this in the instructions in the future. (My instructions were marked Version 1.1 so perhaps this change has already been made)

There was also an addendum about the shock cord mounting. The instructions called for mounting the cord by knotting one end and then running the cord through the BT and locking it in place by sandwiching it between the BT and the MMT with the knot extending out the aft end of the rocket. I liked this idea and used it. The alternate was to do an Estes type installation and glue the cord to the inside of the BT a couple of inches below the NC using a section of MMT that is provided for this purpose. This is the method described in most of their later kits. It's OK, but since the BT is already cramped for space, I prefer the first method over the latter.

Another step that was omitted from the instructions was the sanding and shaping of the fins. One could use them as they were packaged but the square edges and the thickness of the material work together to make the bird look clumsy and rough. After sanding and rounding the mouths of the fin tubes, a much more streamlined appearance was achieved and drag was reduced considerably. No doubt, an experienced builder would see to do this right from the start. However, a novice might not notice it until the bird was assembled making any such refinements a real pain. As it was, a few passes with the Dremel sanding drum and a few strokes with some 200 grt. paper and everything was perfect.

The rest of the assembly went together quickly, as these Rocket Vision kits are inclined to do. Painting and flight testing are set for today and tomorrow respectively. After thinking it over, I would definitely recommend this kit but with the caveat that someone would benefit from having some experience before getting started. For a newly or a BAR with no recent experience, this kit may prove a bit frustrating in that it assumes a degree of knowledge on the part of the builder. (A primary example of this is found in the lack of assembly sequencing. The builder must instinctively know that you begin with the step listed in the upper left corner of the instructions and follow the steps around the picture in a clockwise manner. The steps are NOT numbered.) Otherwise, it's a very easy kit to build and it results in an interesting rocket.

Construction Rating: 4 ½ out of 5

Flight:
Test flights with this model were without problems. For the maiden flight, I used a B4-2. Since the model is designed for 24mm motors an adapter is required. In this case, I used a spent D motor case with a thrust ring glued into one end. I tape wrapped the adapter and snugged it in place. I then wrapped tape around one end of the B motor to act as a thrust ring (a la HP) and wrapped tape around the B casing until a snug fit in the adapter was achieved.

I removed the Nomex® chute protector and went with standard wadding. I used the Quest wadding for this rocket. Unlike the Estes material which comes folded like toilet paper without a roll, the Quest material is packaged in individual light plue sheets. It has a crisp feel to it and is much less prone to burn through and clumping. I loaded three sheets of wadding and folded the chute carefully. I have found that long and thin ejects easier than short and fat so I fold the chute accordingly.

The boost was straight and there was no evidence of weather cocking despite of 15 mph winds. The chute deployed while the rocket was still coasting at an altitude of approx. 150 feet. The second flight was under a C5-3. Again, straight boost and deployment before apogee. I estimate about 300 feet was the peak altitude. The final flight of the day used a C6-7. This time I got more than 400 feet with deployment occurring AFTER apogee.

Recovery:
The recovery using wadding as opposed to the Nomex® protector went without flaws. I think the descent is a tad on the fast side. I was flying over grass but on concrete or dry lake bed I am certain that damage would occur to the rocket. The shock cord looked flamed but there was no evidence of burn through or excessive scorching. Some small holes were found in the chute. Maybe a 4th sheet of wadding would prevent that. Otherwise, all went well.

Flight Rating: 4 ½ out of 5

Summary:
The main PROs of this rocket are:

  1. It is VERY sturdy. You will have to work at breaking it.
  2. It builds quickly and easily.
  3. It finishes VERY well. No fin filling, no spirals to fill, looks like metal when painted.
  4. It flies well on a wide variety of motors.

Principle CONs are as follows:

  1. The instructions assume experience and prior knowledge.
  2. The Nomex® system is too bulky for the BT
  3. The rocket is very heavy.

There are basically three schools of thought on rocket durability. One can built them very light and draggy, one can built them with huge chutes and one can build them using HD materials and techniques. The Big Bertha is a primary example of the first school. It is very light, has high drag and compact fins with a lot of root area. I've flown mine more that 50 documented times without a single case of breakage. The second school is represented by the Big Bertha as well. It comes standard with a large chute and its descent rate is very low. The third school is the direction that Rocket Vision designers have chosen. It works quite well but still not as well as a combination of methods one and two. The chief advantage that method three has over the other two is that power limits must be kept within the low to moderate range in the first two but the sky's the limit with method three. If it'll fit, you can use it. Clearly, if power is your thing, then the rockets from Rocket Vision will not let you down.

Overall Rating: 4 ½ out of 5

"Since RJ posted this review we've completely revised our instructions to make them easier to follow, and we've added online Assembly Guides to provide photographs of virtually all the assembly steps. We've also increased the length of the airframes on all our kits in order to provide more room for the recovery system." - Janet S. Hendrickson - Rocket Vision's Director of Marketing

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GUEST's OPINION:
09/99 - "I agree with the review. It is right on the mark! I lengthened the body tube tube with another piece of their tubing to 19" to allow room for a good chute or streamer, put in a thrust ring to handle the G55 length engine, cut phenolic spacers to handle the other length engines and added an Estes engine hook between the engine tube & body tube. After all modifications it flew like a bat out of hell on the F & G motors. If you put a G-55 in it bring a really good pair of binoculars & tracking smoke helps. There are times I will bring it down without a chute or streamer (on the F & G motors) in fields and it NEVER sustains any damage. I construct all my kits with 2 hour epoxy." (N.T.)

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Date Name Motor Ejection/
Altitude
Wind Notes
12-23-2000 EMRR AT RMS E28-7 Very Early 0-5 mph winds - First flight. Nice punch off of the pad. It was still traveling upward at a good clip upon ejection. Good recovery.
05-13-2001 EMRR Est SU C6-3 Apogee - NC Down Calm - After converting it over to an 18mm mount, this motor combination is nice for the small field.
05-20-2001 EMRR Est SU C6-3 Apogee - Perfect Calm - This combination is good. There was a slight wiggle while ascending. At ejection everything came out but the chute did not open. Recovered in tall grass - okay ... must be a rugged rocket.
06-24-2001 EMRR Est SU C6-3 Apogee - NC Down Calm - A good flight, but seemed to have a little wiggle on the way up. Ejection deployed chute for a nice recovery.
06-24-2001 EMRR Est SU C6-3 Very Late Calm - Good launch, not as wiggly but the parachute didn't open at ejection and it fell to about 25 feet before it did open. No damage
08-07-2001 EMRR Apo SU D10-5 Just Past (1-2sec) 10+ mph winds - Good boost but late on deployment
08-10-2001 EMRR AT SU D21-4 None - Unknown 0-5 mph winds RIP - Came off the pad doing several loops, hitting the ground and ejecting, destroying the rocket! Don't have a clue what happened but someone said it looked like the motor burned off center. I'll call Aerotech. Status: Not Repairable
01-01-2000 MikeyR Est SU D12-7 didn't record calm - streamer Very nice flight. Way into wind.
01-15-2000 MikeyR Est SU D12-7 didn't record some breeze - streamer Nice high flight. Separation at ejection (ripped the nose right off). Lost the streamer, but no damage to the body.
02-19-2000 MikeyR Est SU D12-7 not recorded windy - streamer Nicely up, just missed landing in the parking lot.
04-21-2000 MikeyR AT SU G55-10 not recorded
(3000 ft)
fairly calm - streamer Can you say wow? The Sixpack leapt off the pad and screamed up. We saw it the whole way to somewhere over 3000 feet. I had put a lot of marking chalk in the nose and we saw the red cloud at ejection. The 20' streamer (gold) was visible the whole
11-14-2009 Kathy Miller Est SU C11-3 Apogee - NC Up 10+ mph winds -
   

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