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REV 2.4 - Sun Oct 24 00:03:16 2010

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Estes Industries
Nova Payloader
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SPECS: 21.1" x 1" - 1.33 oz
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SpaceCAD FILE: MISSING - please submit here
REC'D MOTORS: A8-3, B4-4, B6-4, B8-5, C6-5

Rating
(Contributed - by Lance Alligood [Who's Who Page] - 08/01/03)

Rocket Pic Brief:
A great level 1 3FNC with a clear payload tube & a rather aggressive looking fin design. It can be quickly assembled & finished in only a couple of days. It is also very easy to get it to look just like the picture on the packaging.

Construction:
I picked this rocket up at a local crafts store. Regular price was ~$15 which seemed awfully high for a rocket with this simple a design but I happened to stumble upon the store when they had all of their rocketry stuff for 50% off.

Once I got it home & opened the packaging, all parts were intact & present however there was a slight compression along the length of the BT-50 tube so that it was ovalized that I was unable to initially see through the packaging. However, after installing the motor mount & gently rolling the tube on my workspace, it rounded back out. Plastic Model Cement is required to attach both nosecone inserts (one for the NC & the other for the clear plastic payload section). The fins are each constructed of 2 pieces of balsa. Estes graciously provides a template for assembling the fins & wax paper is recommended so that the fins can dry flat. The template is also nice for beginner rocketeers to properly glue the pieces together without error. Overall there were no surprises in assembly & I was able to build it quickly & completely in one evening.

MODIFICATIONS:

  • Used Elmer's Fill 'n' Finish (thinned with water) to seal fins before attaching to main BT.
  • Swapped out the thin & always too short elastic shock cord for 4ft of 1/4in elastic.
  • Cut a 1.5in spill hole in the 12in chute & attached it to a snap swivel (to minimize drift & aid in removal, respectively).

PROS:

  • Aggressive design & attractive clear plastic payload gimmick.
  • Typical easy-to-follow Estes instructions.
  • Well cut balsa (for an Estes kit).
  • Main BT has minimal if any spirals.

Assembles quickly (I bought it on a Wednesday night & had it completed in time for a Saturday morning flight).

CONS:

  • Short shock cord...but you knew that.

Finishing:
The default paint scheme is red BT & fins with white NC. There are self-adhesive decals that you have to cut out yourself. I prefer the decals that are already cut out over these. I chose not to paint the NC since it was already white. I'd already sealed the fins so it was one coat of primer, a little sanding, & then Krylon red to finish. The spirals in the BT were so minimal that I didn't bother to fill them in since priming & finish coats easily filled them in.

PROS:

  • Only one color of paint & the included decals are all that is required to get it to looking like what's shown on the packaging.

CONS:

  • None.

Construction Rating: 4 ½ out of 5

Flight:
In case I ever wanted to use the payload section in the future, I chose to not glue the NC onto the payload section. The parts have a snug fit but for cheap insurance, I wrapped a piece of clear tape around the NC & payload to ensure the NC doesn't go anywhere unexpectedly. At least for the first flight, I chose not to have anything in the payload section. It's first flight was on a B6-4. This would be a good choice even for a small field but I'd be willing to bet you could get some serious altitude on a C6-5.

PROS:

  • Long BT leaves plenty of room for prepping chute.
  • Wide fins provide a straight, stable flight.
  • Enough noseweight/length for safe flights on a C6-5 without a payload.

CONS:

  • None.

Recovery:
Rocket was still gaining altitude but close to apogess when the ejection charge popped. A B6-6 might be a slightly better choice.

WHEN LAUNCHING WITHOUT A PAYLOAD ON A WINDY DAY, would recommend cutting a small (1in to 1.5in) spill hole and/or reefing the chute. Might even consider using a streamer for those C6-5 flights. Only use an unmodified chute for those launches where there is a payload.

PROS:

  • Rocket comes down nice on the provided chute.

CONS:

  • None.

Flight Rating: 4 out of 5

Summary:
A quick build for the experienced & a decent challenge (namely gluing the 2 piece fins together) for the beginner. I'd recommend this kit as a second or third kit for someone just getting into the hobby but probably only if you can pick it up at a discounted price (I think there are better rockets available for the same or less price).

OVERALL PROS:

  • Very easy to get it looking just like the picture on the packaging.

OVERALL CONS:

  • Can be expensive if purchased at full retail price.

Overall Rating: 4 out of 5


(by Doyle Tatum) 

[Picture]Notes: Built this model for club contest - left it unpainted (used magic markers instead) for that reason. Followed the instructions except for the following comments and suggestions: Step 1. Added Kevlar Cord to engine mount, that reaches to the top of the body tube. Step 2. No Change Step 3. Used 5 minute epoxy to connect fin pieces, when dry I filled crack with Elmers Fill'n'Finish and sanded smooth Step 4. I used the Rocket Builders Marking Guide EST-2227 to mark the fins Step 5. I weighted the Kevlar cord to help it drop down the tube Step 6. I took my hobby knife and made a little hole every 1/8" along the fin lines on the body tube. Next I pressed 5 minute epoxy into the holes and the fin root edge. This should make a nice epoxy rivet to hold the fins on. I used the slot in the marking guide ruler to hold the fins square as they dried. Step 7. I used 5 minute epoxy to hold the launch lug down Step 8,9. Did not use shock cord mount. Tied shock cord to end of Kevlar cord (not the Estes supplied one, but some elastic from a cloth store). Step 10. I used Thick CA to make the fin and launch lug fillets. I used thin CA to seal the fins (Wear a mask, gloves and goggles!) Step 11,12. Worked carefully on clear payload so not to get glue everywhere. Painting - Used magic markers Finished Model appearance - Tail section black, upper body red, payload coupler and nose left unpainted (white) Flight - Flew perfectly, would have had a chance placing in the Quadrathon contest, I entered it in, if the snap swivel had not came un-done - letting the body separate from the payload section. Found both pieces - no damage. 


Rating
(Contributed - by Jon Revelle - 11/26/05) (OOP) Estes Nova Payloader

Brief:
Single staged 3FNC Payload rocket with nice fin design. This kit has been recently discontinued by Estes.

The Nova Payloader was originally introduced in 1986 as a Skill Level 2 (and in my opinion, it should stay a Skill Level 2 because of the fins). It was then discontinued the first time, 10 years later at the end of 1996. It remained absent for a few years until sometime in the early 2000s where it reappeared as a skill level 1. During it's second coming, Estes released the Super Nova Payloader, a larger, more powerful version. But unfortunately, both were dropped from Estes' lineup at the end of 2004. At the writing of this review, there are probably a few left at some hobby shops, so grab them while you can if you want one.

Construction:
The rocket came in a typical plastic bag with a paper face-card and contained:

  • 1 BT-50 Body Tube
  • 1 Payload Tube equivalent to a BT-50
  • 1 Sheet of Balsa
  • 1 18mm Engine Mount for BT-50 Body Tubes
  • 1 Launch Lug
  • 1 PNC-50 Nose Cone
  • 1 Cardboard Ring
  • 2 Transitions
  • 1 Sheet of Decals

The instructions were very easy to follow and this is a pretty simple build. I had almost no problems assembling the rocket. The only challenging part was gluing the 2 fin pieces together. It would've been a lot easier if Estes had made the fins one piece.

Finishing:
I went with the stock look, red body tube and fins and white nose cone. The decals were peel n' stick and went on nicely.

Construction Rating: 4 ½ out of 5

Flight:
My Nova has only flown once. I flew it at NIRA's August 2005 club launch and it flew very nicely on an A8-3. The Nova Payloader uses about 4-5 sheets of recovery wadding and can handle just about any 18mm motor. Just be sure to use a short delay when carrying a payload.

Recovery:
The Nova uses a usual Estes 12" parachute and elastic shock cord which brings it down at a normal speed. The 4-5 sheets of wadding work well and there was no wear or burning.

Flight Rating: 5 out of 5

Summary:
This is a pretty decent little rocket. It's really nothing special, but would be perfect for night launches.

Overall Rating: 4 ½ out of 5

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GUEST's OPINION:
05/02 - "I bought this kit because of the overall design. It is sporty and I like the fin pattern. As was previously mentioned, the ends of the clear payload section have horrible cuts. They were very uneven with ragged edges. Other than that, the kit goes together well. I always cover my balsa fins with clear adhesive paper to eliminate the "dreaded" sanding sealer. Elmer's fill and finish works well on the spirals but the perfect product for spirals still eludes me. Used the standard painting and priming (avoid Krylon grey primer!). The self-adhesive Estes decals went on with no problem. Mine is pretty much stock except for the addition of roll patterns to help hide the bad cuts at the ends of the payload section. I have not flown this model yet. Too many southern thunderstorms and windy days." (A.N.)

GUEST's OPINION:
02/02 - "Bought this thinking I looked pretty cool. Kit was OK, as a couple of parts were just crappy. Nose cone had a couple of obvious defects -- a shallow depression in one part, and a deeper depression in another. The payload section ends were a crime, as the cuts were rough & the clear plastic was jagged. Assembly was straightforward, and the 2 part fins, I believe, make this a skill level 2 kit. Used Elmers fill-n-finish on the fins. 2 coats & sanding gave the best fins I've ever put on a kit. Painted up like glass. Flies great. I did modify the shock cord w/ a length of kevlar thread (a la "Quest" kits). really moves on a "C"." (M.D.)

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SPECIFIC ROCKET TIP:
10/02 - "This is a great rocket to fly at night. Try flying the rocket at dusk or a little after. Put one of the small chem-light sticks in the payload compartment. Put something in the hollow nose so the chemlight can't slide up into the opaque nose cone when the recovery system deploys. Don't fly on an "A" motor with the lightstick. I recommend B6-2 or B6-4. " (W.M. )

[Enter Flight Log]
Date Name Motor Ejection/
Altitude
Wind Notes
07-19-2003 Lance Alligood Est SU B6-4 Just Before 0-5 mph winds - Straight-as-an-arrow flight. No payload. Delay was a little on the short side--it could've been a sec or 2 longer as it was still on its way up. No damage though & landed short distance from pad.
08-04-2003 Lance Alligood Est SU C6-5 Apogee - Perfect Calm - Winner of the highest flight of the day award (800+ft). Also winner of longest walk to recover award (~200yds away). Super flight!
08-23-2003 Lance Alligood Est SU B6-4 Apogee - NC Up Calm - This one really goes on a B6-4! Still pointed up when the ejection charge popped. Almost no wind meant it landed close to the pad.
08-23-2003 Lance Alligood Est SU B6-4 Just Before Calm - It seemed to still have some upward momentum when the ejection charge went. The payload smacked the BT, taking out a chunk of paint. Need to use a longer delay with this one.
07-09-2006 George Beever Est SU B6-4 Apogee - Perfect 0-5 mph winds - Nice flight
07-09-2006 George Beever Est SU C6-5 Apogee - NC Up 0-5 mph winds - Another nice flight - mushroom payload!
02-14-2010 John Bishop Est SU B6-4 None - Nose Cone Stuck 0-5 mph winds - Over-taped nosecone for friction fit. Did not deploy. Entire motor mount failed and rocket lawn-darted, destroying payload bay and payload. Will fix.
06-11-2005 Rocky Firth Est SU D12-3 Didn't See Calm - Mikki's first night launch. We put 2 glow sticks and a blue flashing necklace in the payload bay. Looked really cool on the ground, even better in flight. Knocked on fin loose on landing. It will fly again.
09-19-2010 Tim Fischer Est SU C6-5 Apogee - Perfect Light winds Flight Picture - Launched with kids, using silicone bracelet as payload. Near perfect flight.
10-10-2010 Matt Gillard Est SU B6-4 Apogee - NC Down
(242 ft)
5-10 mph winds - good flight
10-15-2010 Matt Gillard Est SU B6-4 Apogee - NC Up 0-5 mph winds - Good flight, but lost nosecone.
03-29-2005 Jeff Henry Est SU B6-4 Apogee - NC Up 0-5 mph winds - First Flight for the rocket.
03-29-2005 Jeff Henry Est SU B6-4 Apogee - NC Down 0-5 mph winds - On the second flight added a dollar bill to the payload tube. Great flight.
03-29-2005 Jeff Henry Est SU C6-5 Just Past (1-2sec) 0-5 mph winds - Very good flight to around 800 feet. Nose cone gave a slight ding on the top of the motor tube.
03-29-2005 Jeff Henry Est SU B6-4 Apogee - Perfect 0-5 mph winds - Finished off pack of motors with another great flight.
06-02-2005 Jeff Henry Est SU A8-3 Just Past (1-2sec) 5-10 mph winds - This motor is little underpowered for this rocket, but wanted to get a good gauge on the wind. Went maybe 150 ft.
03-22-2006 Jeff Henry Est SU C6-5 Apogee - NC Down Calm - Great high flight!
06-29-2003 Ford Lenarz Est SU B4-4 Apogee - NC Up 0-5 mph winds Tower - -good flight-spinning
06-29-2003 Ford Lenarz Est SU B4-4 Apogee - NC Up 0-5 mph winds Tower - -spinning
06-29-2003 Ford Lenarz Est SU B4-4 Apogee - NC Up 0-5 mph winds Tower - -spinning
06-29-2003 Ford Lenarz Est SU B4-4 Just Before 0-5 mph winds Tower - Top nose cone came off, but otherwise great! Estimated height, 150-200 feet.
10-07-2007 Paul Morris Est SU B6-4 Apogee - NC Up Calm - straight flight, recovered fine on an 8 inch chute.
05-20-2002 Andy Northern Est SU B6-4 Apogee - Perfect 0-5 mph winds - Great first flight! Very good flyer!
05-04-2008 Jason Orosco Est SU A8-3 Apogee - Perfect 5-10 mph winds - Great flight.
10-28-2008 Jason Orosco Est SU C6-5 Apogee - NC Down 0-5 mph winds - Great flight payload slamed into fin cracking the clear tube can be fixed.
06-16-2009 Jason Orosco Est SU B4-2 Apogee - Perfect 0-5 mph winds - Great flight, Had search for the NC found it 50 feet from the pad in dog XXXX, I wish people would clean up after there dogs.
11-10-2006 Jack Pearce Est SU C6-5 Just Before 10+ mph winds - good flight, parachute lost a shroud line, landed with no damage over 400m away
09-29-1998 Paul Smith Est SU B4-4 Didn't Record High - West - Shock cord burned through. Slight BT bend parachute/payload section/nose cone stuck into ground right next to body tube/fins/engine mount, which landed without any recovery system.
09-29-1998 Paul Smith Est SU B6-4 Didn't Record High - West -
10-02-1998 Paul Smith Est SU B4-4 Didn't Record Calm - Chute tangled on fin - landed hard on packed dirt. One fin broke off.
10-02-1998 Paul Smith Est SU C6-5 Didn't Record Calm - Lost nose cone Rocket landed through tree
10-02-1998 Paul Smith Est SU C6-5 Didn't Record Calm - Used nose cone from Mongoose. Perfect flight. Beautiful performance with "C" engine.
10-11-1998 Paul Smith Est SU B6-4 Didn't Record Calm - Caught on the fly
10-11-1998 Paul Smith Est SU C5-3 Didn't Record Light - South - Very long ascent - spectacular. Didn't see ejection. Didn't find rocket until a later flight.
09-18-1999 Paul Smith Est SU A8-3 Didn't Record Calm - One fin (previously cracked) came off on landing. This time my last MRC A8-3.
09-18-1999 Paul Smith Est SU B6-4 Didn't Record Calm - This one on an Estes B6-4.
09-18-1999 Paul Smith Est SU B8-7 Didn't Record Calm - Beautiful flight. This is a fascinating engine.
09-18-1999 Paul Smith Qst SU B6-4 Didn't Record Calm - 1st flight of an 18mm Quest engine. Nice long boost. Drifted almost to the trees.
09-18-1999 Paul Smith Qst SU B6-4 Didn't Record Calm - Another Quest B6-4 flight.
09-18-1999 Paul Smith Qst SU B6-4 Didn't Record Calm - Another Quest engine flight.
07-07-2005 Reid Smith Est SU B6-4 Apogee - NC Up 0-5 mph winds - Shot up very fast, carrying no payload. Went maybe 800-1000ft, at ejection NC poped off, dropped by launch pad. Rest of rocket drifted a little far, as there was barely any wind and the chute didn't deploy. Landed a little hard but was fine.
05-10-2002 Jason Vennard Est SU B6-4 Apogee - NC Up 0-5 mph winds - Great flight and recovery, no problems with chute this time, came down nice. 12 plastic chute.
05-10-2002 Jason Vennard Est SU B6-4 Apogee - NC Up 0-5 mph winds - Great straight flight, nice looking boost. 12 plastic chute, didn't open up, hard landing, slight prong to top of body tube, repaired.
07-19-2002 Jason Vennard Est SU B6-4 Apogee - NC Down 0-5 mph winds - Good flight, problem at ejection, chute lines burnt through, hard landing but no damage other than some paint chipping on one fin.
06-30-2003 Jason Vennard Est SU B6-4 Apogee - NC Down 0-5 mph winds - Light east winds. Our first live payload. One grasshopper up and back down with no problems, released to hop away. Nice boost, nice recovery under 12 nylon
08-10-2003 Jason Vennard Est SU C6-5 Apogee - Perfect Calm - Nice quick boost with descent height... Good flight and recovery. 12 plastic chute with spillhole.
08-11-2001 Larry Zeilmann Est SU B6-4 Apogee - Perfect 0-5 mph winds - good first flight
08-11-2001 Larry Zeilmann Est SU B6-4 Apogee - Perfect 0-5 mph winds - small payload carried
08-11-2001 Larry Zeilmann Est SU C6-3 Very Early 0-5 mph winds - larger payload, very early ejection no damage
11-10-2001 Larry Zeilmann Est SU B6-4 Apogee - Perfect 0-5 mph winds - Nose cone seperated, no major damage
   

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