EMRR's OOP: V-2 (E-motor Version)

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V-2 (E-motor Version)

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SPECS:

33.5" x 4" - 13 oz

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REC'D MOTORS:

D12-3, E9-4

(Contributed - by Brian Jarchow - 03/20/02)

Brief:
Single state, 1:19.5 scale model of the German V2 ballistic missile. The only skill level 4 kit Estes currently sells.

Construction:
The kit comes with plastic nose and tail cones, four plastic sheets of fin, a short 4" body tube, a BT-50 for the engine, centering rings, two 24" parachutes, and the usual motor retention stuff. Also, some decals for a more scale appearance.

When I first started on the V2 I was wondering why it is a skill level 4 kit. The first steps involve adding the motor retention to the BT-50 then gluing it and the centering rings to the tail cone. The difficulty of the kit is dealing with the fins. Four vacuum molded fin sheets are included and you are supposed to cut the two halves out of each sheet then glue the fins together. If you buy this kit please note: The instructions simply state "Carefully remove plastic fin halves with knife." You will have a much easier time if you cut one to two millimeters extra all around each fin. A later step says to sand away that extra material, and if you don't leave the extra material you will have a much more difficult time assembling the fins. I learned this the hard way!

Finishing:
Pro: With the exception of the fins, construction is quick and easy - no more difficult than a skill level 2 kit. Con: The fins. After cutting out each half I found they were all slightly warped and had a difficult time getting them glued together well.

Construction Rating: 3 out of 5

Flight:
So far this rocket only has one flight. The Estes documentation lists a maximum altitude of 300 feet after a three second burn on an E9 engine, and I estimated a 200 foot altitude with a D12. The liftoff was slow, and the rocket climbed slower than any other I have ever seen. It is definitely not a scale launch, but a very impressive launch and flight that I enjoyed. The flight was straight and, even though the fins were all warped, there was no visible spinning of the rocket. One problem I found - the instructions say to use 6-8 squares of wading, but this didn't quite seem sufficient to protect the two parachutes. Instead I purchased a 12 inch Kevlar® pad from Top Flight Recovery. If you like a fast launch and a lot of altitude find another kit. But if you prefer low flights and slow climbs you will enjoy the flight of this model.

Recovery:
Just after apogee the charge popped off the nosecone, which pulled out its own parachute. Unfortunately the ejection charge was insufficient to blow out the Kevlar® pad and it stayed in the body tube, along with the parachute for the body. After tumbling back to earth and landing in a soft field there were four cracks in one fin and one small piece completely broken off. Nothing a little epoxy couldn't fix, and this rocket is ready for another launch. In a static test I determined the ejection charge is sufficient to blow off the nosecone and blow out both parachutes IF they are on top of the Kevlar® pad and not inside it.

Flight Rating: 4 ½ out of 5

Summary:
The field where the rocket fell was very soft, and a lot of other Estes rockets recovered in the same manner without damage. I would be happier with stronger fins, but other than this I have no complaints.

Overall Rating: 3 out of 5

(Contributed - by Jon Revelle - 07/15/04) Estes V2

Brief:
Large Mid-engine rocket with dual parachutes.

Construction:
The model came in a huge box. It was dented but there was no damage. Parts in the kit:

Nose cone
Shock cords
Parachutes
Engine tube holder
Engine tube
Tail cone
Four fins
Engine hook
Cardboard adapter ring to use with D motors
Instructions

The instructions are easy to follow and there are plenty of illustrations. Ease of build should be a Skill Level 3 because it isn't that hard to build. Just take your time on the fins.

Only tools needed are scissors, glue, plastic cement, tape, and a ruler.

Finishing:
The paint job rocks! I didn't do the camouflage because I wasn't that good at it, so I had my mom do it. She did a wonderful job. Then I applied the decals, however, there aren't that many. Once finished, the rocket looks absolutely beautiful!

Construction Rating: 5 out of 5

Flight:
My V2 has had 3 flights on D12-3s. The parachutes leave a lot to be desired. On flight 1, both chutes melted because I put the wadding in the engine tube, so it was my fault.

Flight 2 was a little better, although it did tip in mid-air. Apogee was not good either. The chute on the nose cone didn't bother to open and the BT shock cord snapped. Unbelievably, each time it fell (about 150 feet) there was no damage! For what little cement I used, it survived.

Flight 3 was perfect! Nice takeoff with lots of smoke. It did weathercock over but the chutes ejected before it fell too much. This time the chutes worked! The body still landed hard, so I would recommend a larger chute for the body and a smaller chute for the nose cone.

Recovery:
Recovery is via 2 24" chutes. They melted in flight 1, didn't open on flight 2, and worked on flight 3. The rocket fell on flights 1-2, but survived with no damage.

Flight Rating: 4 ½ out of 5

Summary:
An excellent rocket that's great for small fields.

Overall Rating: 5 out of 5

(Contributed - by Frank Casey - 03/31/08)

estes_V2complete Brief:
The Estes V-2 "E" Engine Powered kit aka Maxi V-2 is the latest version of the original Model No. 1267 Maxi V-2 which was produced from 1974-1981. I had that original kit way back in the day and it was by far my favorite rocket then just as it is now. This newest version (now also OOP) is setup with a 24mm motor mount capable of holding a D or E engine. It utilizes two 24" parachutes, one for the main body and one for the large nose cone.

Construction: The kit includes::

Body tube BT-101
Body tube - BT-50 (serves as engine mount & Stuffer tube)
Body tube - BT-52 (slips over engine hook and BT-50)
Nose Cone - PNC-101F
Tail cone
4 Fin sheets (two fins halves on each sheet
Yellow spacer tool
Engine hook
Orange Spacer (for E to D engine usage)
Green engine block
Launch Lug
Wood dowel 1/2" x 6"
Shock cord 1/4" x 18"
Shock cord 1/4" x 36"
Die cut ring set
Decal sheet

The build was very straight forward and the instructions were laid out well. This model requires plastic modeling cement for the plastic components and wood glue for the other components.

estes_V2parts The fin construction was challenging but I followed the instructions and things went smoothly. Once I had all fins glued together I just took my time sanding, filling and each one came out great. Gluing the four completed fins to the boat tail was a snap.

Finishing:
PROs: The paint scheme I chose was basically similar to the box cover picture so painting was very easy to do. I used green, almond and brown paint to give the rocket the desired look.
CONs: None that I can think of.

Construction Rating: 5 out of 5

Flight:
This rocket requires the Estes E-Launch Pad since it's big and heavy. It also takes a good deal of wadding if you don't want your parachutes burned during ejection.

For the first flight I used an E9-4 engine that a friend of mine had laying around. That engine choice proved to be very costly. I put the V-2 on the pad, hooked up the clips and stood back with camera in hand to capture the launch. There were more than a few folks on hand to see the launch; the countdown reached zero the button was depressed. The engine roared to life. However as it did it blew the nozzle out and a great stream of fire poured down onto the blast deflector and up around the rocket.

For a moment, I was surprised and didn't move towards the rocket right away. By the time time I grabbed it up and away from the blast deflector the lower fins were burned and twisted. The bottom of the boat tail was also burned through in one place but not otherwise melted. I guess that engine had been sitting around too long and perhaps the conditions it sat in weren't optimal. I called Estes and they were kind enough to ship me a new set of fins. I cut the old ones off of the rocket and applied the new ones. It was a repeat of the first fin build and after some touch up paint the V-2 was ready to go again.

On the next flight I used a D12-3. This time the V-2 lifted off slowly and gained altitude. It didn't go straight up. It traveled at an angle. I think it only got to 150 feet or so and ejection was far too close to the ground for my liking. It was still a very cool launch and recovery via the two huge chutes was done without damage.

I then sent it up on an E9-4 and this time the rocket healed over at about 80-90 feet or so and travelled cruise missle style until it ejected only about 25 feet or so from the ground. The very tip of the nose cone chipped off when it hit a concrete road but other than that no damage resulted. The Estes E9-4 is NOT the engine for this rocket. For that matter neither is the Estes D12-3.

Additional D12-3 flights were similar to the first D12-3 flight so I put the V-2 on the shelf. The V-2 looks great on display! It will fly again, but only on Aerotech E and maybe F engines.

Recovery:
PROs: It's a great looking rocket on display, on the pad and as it lifts off. It's slow and majestic and definitely commands attention.

CONs: The two recommended engines fall far short of being able to deliver the power or speed needed to give this wonderful rocket a decent flight.

If you are lucky enough to find one of these I suggest going with a larger engine than either of those recommended by Estes. I also recommend a long launch rod since it will keep the rocket on track longer while it is building up speed.

Flight Rating: 4 out of 5

Summary:
Out of all of the rockets that I have built over the years this is my absolute favorite. Rebuilding this rocket after the fire was almost as much fun as building it the first time. I look forward to flying it on larger more powerful engines in the future.

Overall Rating: 5 out of 5

GUEST's OPINION:
10/04 - "10/19/2004 - I built this rocket per instructions. The fins are a bit of a pain, but not that bad if you take your time. (I built the Estes Pershing 1-A as a kid and it had the same fins.) As with all Estes products, if you stray from the instructions and "improve" the kit, it may not perform as designed. Although the E9-4 may be marginal, it is an adequate motor for this rocket, if you keep it stock (and light weight). I have made several flights with the E9, including in a moderate breeze, and have not had any substantial weathercocking problems. The liftoff is realistic and impressive. The D12-3 actually boosts it off the pad with more authority, just not as high, and is a great alternative for small fields. I am looking forward to trying this on an Aerotech E15-4, if I can get my hands on any. Overall, I like it and think that it was worth the time and money." (R.C.B.)

GUEST's OPINION:
09/03 - "This is a great kit! The reviews are very accurate. The only challenging area are the fins. My father built this kit and had no problems in the assembly. The only changes we made was to swap out the original shock cord with a thicker longer one purchased at the fabric store. We also changed the kit from a double chute recovery to a single home made 38" chute made from ripstop nylon. The chute was made to match the black & white test pattern paint job. Our first flight was on an Aerotech E-30-4. We selected this motor because we thought the E-9 was under powered. This flight was made on a day with 5-10mph winds. The E-30 boosted the rocket off the pad in a hurry to an altitude of 600 feet. There was no weathercocking and the flight was as straight as could be. At apogee the 38" main chute ejected and brought the rocket to a soft landing. No need to chase two pieces. This rocket is fun and a pretty flyer." (J.R.L.)

GUEST's OPINION:
09/03 - "I thought this model was great. I was nervous about building and launching the V-2 after reading some comments here. I built it to stock as instructed and launched using the recommended E9-4 engine. No parachute replacement, no body glassing, no fin reinforcement, no Kevlar® pads, no special shock cord mounts. Perfect flight to 500 feet and perfect recovery. I saw no indication of weathercocking or low altitude. This is a great kit and I wouldn't change anything. Just build it carefully to the instructions and you can't go wrong. I have never had any problems with any Estes product when directions were followed (Hundreds of launches as a teen and about a hundred as a BAR. Just build these as instructed and don't modify them, and you won't go wrong." (C.J.D.)

GUEST's OPINION:
08/02 - "The reviews are pretty much spot on. Estes has not changed this product much-I have my original Estes V-2 my Dad built for me in 1975(!), since retired after 352 flights. A neat model. If powering up the model with composite E and F motors, beware of flutter in the tips of the fins. Mine has lost one of the tips from this on an AT E-30 flight, you could hear the fins buzzing right after burnout. Don't mess with the E-9 or you V-2 will get bent." (S.P.F.)

GUEST's OPINION:
05/02 - "At the launch site beware of squirrels,(or any other small mammal) if one happens to pass gas this rocket will weathercock on the E9." (P.E.)

GUEST's OPINION:
04/02 - "Review is accurate. My vac form pieces were VERY warped. I opted for the following modifications: 1) Installed a 29MM MMT and T-Nut for motor retention of Aerotech RMS. 2) Ran a piece of small diameter cable around the indentation on the boat tail as an anchor for the shock cord and then came up through the paper centering rings with a loop on the top, similar to the "gorilla mount" of the old Estes/NCR Interceptor-G. Added a couple of feet of 1/4 inch elastic for the shock cord. 3) Fiberglassed the body tube for durability. 4) Used 1/16" plywood to provide rigidity to the fins, with the vacform as a skin over the plywood fin. I made a tab on the root edge of the plywood fin and then cut a corresponding groove in the boat tail for a pseudo TTW fin attachment. The fins are now significantly more rigid and straight. -Greg" (G.P.S.)

GUEST's OPINION:
03/02 - "The review is pretty much accurate and the kit is easy to build with the exception of the fins as stated above and the tip of cutting the fins slightly larger is correct. Once the fins are glued together just simply sand the edges down. As far as flight, I flew the kit on an Aerotech E15-7 and upgraded the chutes to First Flight chutes. It worked perfectly, the kit lifted to an estimated 500 feet rather quickly, popped the nose cone and ejected both chutes and came down safely." (M.A.K.)

SPECIFIC ROCKET TIP:
09/03 - "The fins for this rocket scared me at first - especially after reading this review - however, I chose to follow the Estes instructions and the fins came out very nice. None of the extra steps talked about by the other posts here were necessary. Take your time and the fins are not a problem. It is nice to have a dremel tool and a steady hand when cleaning up the edges. I did decide to glass the upper centering ring since it serves as the anchor for the shock cord." (S.J.M. )

SPECIFIC ROCKET TIP:
08/02 - "If you choose to use Estes-type wadding, put two sheets into the BT-50 "stuffer" tube first, then use 4 or 5 separated sheets like a heat shield (cup them around the 'chutes). Also, replace the body's 'chute. I use the stock 24 and an 18 alongside of it. If you don't, you could land on soft ground and crack the fins." (R.A.V. )

SPECIFIC ROCKET TIP:
07/02 - "The hardest part to building this V-2 is the fin assembly. I found a great way to align the fin halves. Take a push pin (The kind you would stick into a map) using a candle heat the tip of the pin for a few seconds..insert the pin while rotating it into a mold line intersection. Do this on all 8 halves in about 4 or 5 different locations.(see photo). Join the fin halves and insert the pins thru the holes. The pin will be snug fit. Leave a slight gap between the halves and apply small amounts of plastic cement. Have some 1' strips of tape ready, squeeze the fin halves together. If necessary, small adjustments can be made by pushing the pins from side to side until the edges re aligned. Apply the tape as you work around the perimeter of the fins. (see photo) This method has worked extremely well for me on my V-2 just be careful not to sand too much on the edges." (A.H. )

SPECIFIC ROCKET TIP:
07/02 - "The instuctions with the maxi V-2 kit contain an error on the very first step. The yellow motor block insertion tube is first shown to be marked 1/2" from the end.... later, in the same diagram. The tube is shown to be marked 1/4" from the end. The correct position whould be 1/2" from the end." (A.H. )

SPECIFIC ROCKET TIP:
03/02 - "I launched the V-2 E motor version twice using an Aerotech E-15 and E-30. The E-30 was only slightly better in that it had a faster lift-off. The rocket is simply too heavy for a weak motor like the E-9, and it weathercocked, reaching only a height of about 100 feet. It divebombs to the ground, ejecting only a few feet above the ground. My solution was to use a Dremel to remove the engine block and engine hook, replace it with a engine block further up the motor mount tube so that it can hold the non-standard Aerotech F32 motors. Because of the weathercocking, and now the larger engine, I added a fair amount of clay to the nosecone to move the center of gravity forward. The F32 motor means a $10 - $13 cost for each lift-off, but it is definitely worth it. I got about 800 feet or so in altitude, and the liftoff was breathtaking. Nothing slow about it. My suggestion: if you have not yet built your Estes V-2 (E-motor version), either build it to hold an F or G motor (29 mm motor mount) OR you can simply place the engine block further up the motor mount tube. You can always use spacers (created out of used D engines - just saw off and clean out what you need) if you insist on using weaker motors like the E9, 15 or 30. See the Aerotech website for further specifications on their non-standard motors like the F32 and the F101. I am looking forward to trying the new Aerotech F25s (?), which I understand will also be 24 mm in diameter." (C.E.D. )

SPECIFIC ROCKET TIP:
02/02 - "After cutting the fins from the vacuum form plastic, the modeler has two shell halves that easily slip relative to each other, when they are combined together to form one fin. This tendency to slip can be overcome by putting a mixture of Epoxy & West System 410 microlight fairing filler into the root edge. The fin half is sanded again in the same manner explained in the Estes directions to form flat surfaces. Plastic cement is used sparingly to glue the two halves together, because the polystyrene tends to melt." (R.A.M. )

SPECIFIC ROCKET TIP:
02/02 - " Reinforced 1/32 balsa fins work using thick CA glue to secure and fill the balsa and fill the edges of the fins for sanding. This makes the fin construction much stronger then instead of filling the root edge for the proper fit, I used 30min slow -cure and lightweight microballoons filler 3to1 mixture, use caution because this mixture sets up quick! Simply attaching it to the tailcone, the filler will fill all the space between the fin and tailcone nicely while securing the fin and tailcone together, on mine, I didn’t even have to fillet the fins after drying the epoxy/filler did it very well. Note: remember always sand both surfaces before gluing. "THANKS to DARELL" from Amarillo Hobbie House for that Epoxy/filler Idea on this one(no sanding down filler just gluing)" (unknown )

Date	Name	Motor	Ejection/ Altitude	Wind	Notes
06-14-2004	Tim Baumgart	Est SU E9-4	Just Past (1-2sec)	5-10 mph winds	- Built stock with epoxy putty fin fillets, launched off a 6 foot high steel rod. Nice long burn on the E9. Beautiful launch and recovery.
04-19-2003	William Beggs	Est SU E9-4	Apogee - Perfect	Calm	Event: Bear Creek Lake Park, Lakewood, CO - Great flight and recovery.
04-10-2004	William Beggs	Est SU E9-4	Apogee - Perfect	0-5 mph winds	Event: Rio Rancho, NM - Good flight. Damaged one fin on landing.
09-11-2004	William Beggs	Est SU E9-4	Very Late	Calm	Event: North - Parabolic flight. Damage on landing.
06-18-2006	Paul Bethel	AT RMS F12-3	Just Past (1-2sec)	5-10 mph winds	- 10th flight!Built w epoxy,old dependable.
09-10-2007	Ed Boyd	AT RMS F24-4	Apogee - Perfect (900 ft)	0-5 mph winds	- The AT F24-4W is easily the best motor for this kit. I have tried numerous other engines (forget any estes) and this one really delivers. Won't strip the fins and gets it up nice and high. Great combo.
09-07-2009	Ed Boyd	AT RMS F35-5	Apogee - Perfect (750+ ft)	Calm	- Tested with the AT F35-5W...excellent flight near Mannheim Germany; V-2 right at home. Combo very similar to AT F21-4W flight
10-26-2004	Robert Buss	Est SU D12-3	Apogee - NC Down	0-5 mph winds	- Perfect flight and recovery. No weathercocking. This is a good small field motor.
10-26-2004	Robert Buss	Est SU D12-3	Apogee - NC Down	5-10 mph winds	- Perfect flight and recovery. Slight weathercocking. Landed close to pad, though.
10-26-2004	Robert Buss	Est SU E9-4	Apogee - NC Down	0-5 mph winds	- Perfect flight and recovery. Slight weathercocking.
10-26-2004	Robert Buss	Est SU E9-4	Apogee - NC Down	5-10 mph winds	- Good flight and recovery. Slight weathercocking. Still landed in the field we were flying from.
11-02-2004	Robert Buss	AT EconoJet F21-4	Apogee - Perfect	5-10 mph winds	- Wow! What a performance boost. Some weathercocking (wind was picking up by now). Long walk to retrieve. Can't wait to fly on this motor again.
05-21-2006	Hank Coates	AT SU E15-7	Very Late	0-5 mph winds	- Very nice boost. Coast to about 750 ft then turned over. Screamed towards the ground. Ejected maybe at 75 feet. Not a scratch. 4 second delay would be perfect. Probably an E30 would be better too.
08-28-2004	Clive Davis	AT EconoJet F21-6	Just Past (1-2sec)	5-10 mph winds	Event: ASTRE Launch, August 2004 - Great flight for this motor. Very stable, great ascent. I should have gone with the F21-4, because the ejection was a few seconds after apogee. Nice gentle recovery.
07-10-2004	Greg Deeter	AT SU F50-4	Just Past (1-2sec)	5-10 mph winds	Event: Challenger 498 Rushing Park Katy Texas - 29mm Aerotech cooling baffle upgrade. Very loud flight, twisted a little on the way up. Came down about 50 feet from pad on 36 cloth chute.
07-24-2004	Greg Deeter	AT SU F50-4	Just Past (1-2sec)	Calm	Event: Challenger 498 Rushing Park Katy Texas - Extremely loud lift off. Someone commented that we should have ear plugs when using the F50 in this. Twisted a little on the way up and somehow blew the motor out the back even though there is a spring loaded retainer. No damage, nice flight.
08-28-2004	Greg Deeter	AT SU F50-4	None - Parachute Fail	0-5 mph winds	Event: Challenger 498 Rushing Park Katy Texas - Extremely loud and nice boost. Some typical twisting. Landed to scale. Nose cone ejected but 30 inch cloth chute remained inside. Landed in grass, minimal damage to one fin. Easily repairable.
10-15-2005	Greg Deeter	AT SU F50-6	Apogee - NC Down	0-5 mph winds	Event: NASA Johnson Space Center Houston Texas - Brought this bird out of retirement this morning and launched it at NASA's Johnson Space Center on an Aerotech Single Use F50-6.It seems to like that motor. Corkscrewed a little and the chute twisted on the way down but nice flight.
04-16-2003	Fred Dilley	4x Est SU E9-9	Very Late (250 ft)	0-5 mph winds	- This rocket weathercocked severely. Flight was to 250 feet. Rocketwas headed towards the ground when the chute opened. Good recoveryafter that though. Underpowered on E9-4 engine.
05-25-2002	Mike Doherty	AT SU E15-4	Apogee - Perfect	5-10 mph winds	- This kit ROCKS on this motor. First flight for kit & my first E flight ever. Awesome. only bummer was chute getting stripped from NC. Other wise, recovered w/o any problems.
05-02-2004	Tim Doll	AT RMS E18-4	Just Past (1-2sec)	5-10 mph winds	- Slight weathercock off the rod, but otherwise a near perfect flight. Next time it gets an F motor.
09-07-2003	Chris Douglas	Est SU E9-4	Apogee - Perfect (500 ft)	0-5 mph winds	- Built and flew per Estes instructions, everything stock with no modifications. Spectacular flight to about 500 feet. I wouldn't change anything. A very fun rocket!
07-11-2004	Terry Fernandes	2x Est SU D12-3	Apogee - NC Down	0-5 mph winds	Event: RCK July 11.04. - Flies quite nice with double D12-3's. Recovered with a 24 spherachute. Perfect flight. Nice to see the entire flight up to about 400-500 ft. have flown in this config. 4 times. Great!
07-11-2004	Terry Fernandes	2x Est SU D12-3	Apogee - Perfect	0-5 mph winds	Event: RCK - July 11.04 - This rocket flies quite nicely with 2xD12-3's up to about 500'. I use a 24 spherachute and a nomex pad for recovery. Very nice straight flights with easy recovery. Nice to watch. Lots of fun!
04-01-2007	Dave Hein	AT RMS E28-4	Apogee - Perfect	5-10 mph winds	- Amateur Rocketeers of Texas Launch at Meek Ranch, TX. Perfect launch and recovery.
05-19-2007	Dave Hein	AT RMS F24-6	Very Early	5-10 mph winds	- Amateur Rocketeers of Texas launch at Meek Ranch. I drilled out the delay element to reduce the delay. However, the delay was too short. The ejection charge went off after about 2.5 seconds.
06-02-2007	Dave Hein	AT RMS F39-4	Just Past (1-2sec)	0-5 mph winds	Event: Club launch at Granger Lake, Texas -
08-25-2007	Dave Hein	AT RMS F39-4	Apogee - Perfect	0-5 mph winds	Event: Meek Ranch - Cracked a fin on landing. Can be repaired.
07-13-2002	Mich Henshaw	AT EconoJet F21-6	Just Past (1-2sec)	Calm	- Took advice on NOT using E size engines for this ship. The F21 in this model was my first composite motor flight. Very impressive. Not perfectly straight and stripped one chute.
04-04-2004	Brian Jarchow	Est SU E9-4	Just Past (1-2sec)	0-5 mph winds	- Third flight for my V-2, and definitely the best. Would have launched it again that day but I didn't want to tempt fate.
07-21-2006	Anonymous Joe	Est SU E9-4	Apogee - Perfect	0-5 mph winds	- Slowest liftoff ever seen. Flew to about 150 ft. This motor is good, but I might try an E15 or an E30 next time.
06-26-2004	David Logan	AT RMS E18-4	Apogee - Perfect	0-5 mph winds	- Used a single PML 24 inch chute which brought it down a little too fast. Luckily it landed in some mud.
06-27-2004	David Logan	AT EconoJet F21-6	Apogee - Perfect	0-5 mph winds	- Great motor for this one. Rod whip sent it with the wind, and use of a 30 inch chute made for a long walk. Recovered it 1/4 mile away under a large shade tree, LUCKY!!!
10-05-2002	Randy Powell	AT EconoJet F20-4	Very Late	0-5 mph winds	- This was the maiden flite for this rocket.It boosted well and weather-cocked.The delay was real late.This has happened twice now with the F20-4's I have.Both were from the same pack.
10-20-2002	Randy Powell	AT EconoJet F20-4	Just Past (1-2sec)	0-5 mph winds	- definitely needs a G for max altitude...looks very realistic when boosting.
04-12-2003	Randy Powell	AT EconoJet G38-4	Very Early	0-5 mph winds	-
09-21-2003	Randy Powell	AT EconoJet G38-4	Very Early	0-5 mph winds	- both G38s in this pack ejected way too early...hope that doesn't continue...rocket was'nt hurt.
09-14-2002	Joe Skitka	2x Est SU E9-4	Apogee - Perfect	0-5 mph winds	- A dual 24mm motor mount works great in this rocket and allows you to get the speed of an AP motor cheaper using E-9's. The flight was perfect with very little weathercock.
08-17-2003	Rod Thrasher	Est SU E9-4	Just Past (1-2sec)	0-5 mph winds	- Kit too heavy for an E9. Does not accelerate fast enough to get up straight. Arced over and flew horizontal and crashed hard. Try an A.T. E30-4T at minimum for this kit. Status: Lawn Dart
07-16-2002	Robert Vaughan	Est SU E9-4	Just Past (1-2sec)	Calm	- Absolutely beautiful flight. NC 'chute tangled in body 'chutes, came down quick. Cracked two fins on concrete. E9 is a great engine for this rocket.
10-18-2003	Jason Vennard	AT EconoJet F21-6	Apogee - Perfect	5-10 mph winds	- Built completely stock except for recovery system which is all kevlar. Perfect quick boosted flight, straight and fast on maiden flight, good deployment on 24 nylon chute soft recovery with no problems, excellent combination here.
08-24-2002	Christian Voto	AT EconoJet F21-6	Just Past (1-2sec)	0-5 mph winds	- Awesome boost with slight spiraling probably due to warped plastic fins. Over 800 feet. Both shutes deployed just past apogee. Recovered nose, rocket lost in the woods. Great engine/rocket combination Status: Lost