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REV 2.4 - Tue Aug 17 00:04:47 2010

FlisKits
Long OverDue
6 Jennifer Drive
Merrimack, NH 03054
(603) 494-1145
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SPECS: 23.14" x .976" - oz
ROCKSIM FILE: Right Click to Download
SpaceCAD FILE: MISSING - please submit here
REC'D MOTORS: A8-3, B4-2, B6-4, C6-5

Rating
(Contributed - by Chan Stevens [Who's Who Page])

FlisKits Long OverDueBrief:
Since its inception, FlisKits has had a policy that if an order ever shipped late, they would provide a free rocket called "OverDue". I've ordered quite a few products from them and to my knowledge, only pre-order customers of the Grissom and/or Nomad have ever been fortunate enough to get their orders late, and therefore accompanied by the ever-elusive OverDue. Now, Jim Flis [Who's Who Page] has released a "stretch" version of the OverDue, for regular commercial sale, called the "Long OverDue". Same great tube-fin design, but even more of it to love.

Construction:
Inside the bag, you'll find plenty of tubes--a BT-50 upper body tube, a BT-20 lower body tube, and a BT-60 and BT-20 for cutting making into tube fins. Also included is a nice balsa nose cone, a card stock pattern sheet, and a recovery package of elastic and a plastic chute.

FlisKits instructions are always well written and contain sufficient illustrations; this is no exception. Being a minimum diameter design, there's no motor tube assembly, just a centering ring block. Next, the BT-20 must be carefully marked for aligning the tube fins.

The transition from the lower BT-20 to upper BT-50 consists of a cardstock shroud, supported by a centering ring. My shroud was slightly oversized, easily corrected by trimming it down. If it feels like you're doing this upside down or backwards, relax--you are. This design is an inverted small lower tube topped by a larger upper tube. Remember, these are the guys that brought you the ACME Spitfire!

The good news about fin construction is that there's no balsa to cut, sand, fill and seal. The bad news is that the tube fins aren't your basic Totally Tubular design. The Long OverDue has a set of three BT-60's, each of which has a BT-20 nested inside, and all 6 tubes have 45-degree sloped cuts at the top. The tubes are easily marked and cut using the included pattern, then marked with centerlines for mounting. Pay careful attention to the directions for this step, as there is very little extra tubing, and if you don't nest the cuts just right, you won't have enough to complete all the tubes.

The shock cord is attached by a paper tri-fold, then secured to the nose cone by a screw eye.

Overall, this would be about a skill level 3 kit due to the complexity of angled tube cuts.

Finishing:
I filled the seams in the body tubes before bonding them, thinking this clever step would make finishing go much more smoothly. Unfortunately, I filled the OUTSIDE of the tubes, and for the tube fins there's a lot of the inside exposed. Try sanding and filling the inside of a BT-20 with adult fingers! I made a feeble effort using a 13mm motor casing glued to a dowel, but decided I'd just have to live with a few spirals.

I opted for a metallic finish, using red for the top, blue for the bottom, and green and silver for the tube fins (painting the tube fins before bonding, then substituting CA for yellow glue makes the multi-color effect easy to achieve).

The finished product is a very eye-catching design. I only wish FlisKits would include decals with more of their kits, although this is a lot of kit for the money and I suspect water slides would be a bit over budget.

Construction Rating: 4 ½ out of 5

Flight:
After several club launches were blown/snowed-out this winter, my cabin fever was burning badly enough that I trekked out in 10 degree weather to fly in clear skies and near zero wind conditions.

For its first flight, I went with the max--a C6-5. The flight was perfect--straight up, not even a trace of spin, and deployment right at apogee. FlisKits chutes offer three different sizes on the pattern sheet, and I went with the largest, resulting in a very slow descent, landing only about 20-30 yards from the pad. A 12" chute would suffice on a more windy day.

Recovery:
Excellent flight; best one of the day.

Flight Rating: 5 out of 5

Summary:
Another great design from Jim Flis. This one will be one of my most frequent flyers.

Overall Rating: 4 ½ out of 5

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GUEST's OPINION:
05/06 - "This rocket is amazing!!!! Looks awesome and flies even better. Went up dead straight and really high on a C6-5 but could see it all the way up. The kit is really easy to put together, really good instructions and quality parts just a bit of time required to cut out the fins. does need a new parachute as per normal and I wouldn’t use the 16inch parachute given as an option because it may never come back!!! I found a good 12inch chute was more than good enough. I’d recommend buying one now." (M.J.F.)

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Date Name Motor Ejection/
Altitude
Wind Notes
04-03-2005 Andrew Grippo Est SU B6-4 Apogee - Perfect 5-10 mph winds - Good flight and recovered without damage. Fun kit to build and fly. This rocket looks different and everyone notices.
11-03-2005 Andrew Grippo Est SU B6-4 Apogee - Perfect 5-10 mph winds - Good boost without much height but did have a close recovery. No damage to rocket.
06-02-2007 Andrew Grippo Est SU B4-4 Apogee - Perfect 0-5 mph winds Event: Monthly Launch
- Good flight and recovery.
06-04-2006 Bob Harrington Est SU A8-3 Apogee - NC Up 0-5 mph winds Event: CMASS Section Launch
- First flight.
07-08-2006 Bob Harrington Est SU C6-5 Apogee - Perfect 0-5 mph winds Event: CMASS Section Launch
- nice high flight
08-12-2006 Bob Harrington Est SU B4-2 Just Before 10+ mph winds Event: CMASS Section Launch
- Landed in edge of trees but low enough to be recovered
01-07-2007 Bob Harrington Est SU B6-4 None - Parachute Fail 5-10 mph winds Event: CMASS Winter Follies
- Chute got toasted. Core sampled into soft earth and was undamaged.
01-07-2007 Bob Harrington Est SU B6-4 Apogee - Perfect 5-10 mph winds Event: CMASS Winter Follies
- Second flight of the day for this rocket. This time the flight was perfect.
04-21-2007 Bob Harrington Est SU B6-4 Apogee - Perfect 5-10 mph winds Event: CMASS Section launch
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06-09-2007 Bob Harrington Est SU B6-4 Apogee - Perfect 5-10 mph winds Event: CMASS section launch
- Nice flight.
09-16-2007 Bob Harrington Est SU A8-3 Apogee - NC Up 0-5 mph winds Event: CMASS section launch
- Low flight.
09-20-2008 Bob Harrington Est SU B6-4 Apogee - Perfect 5-10 mph winds Event: CMASS Section Launch
- Nice flight
04-25-2009 Bob Harrington Est SU C6-5 Apogee - NC Up 5-10 mph winds Event: Section Launch
- Nice flight.
04-22-2006 Bill Ralston Est SU C6-5 Didn't See 0-5 mph winds Event: cmass
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03-12-2005 Steve Ramberg Est SU B6-4 Didn't See 5-10 mph winds - Looks as cool as it flies.
01-31-2004 Chan Stevens Est SU C6-5 Apogee - Perfect Calm -
05-06-2006 Chan Stevens Est SU C6-5 Apogee - Perfect 5-10 mph winds -
11-05-2006 Chan Stevens Est SU C6-5 Apogee - Perfect 5-10 mph winds -
10-03-2004 Andy Turits Est SU A8-3 Apogee - Perfect Gusty - Maiden flight. Perfect straight ascent to about 300 ft. strange thwop thowp thwop sound right before ejection charge at arc of apogee. Chute ejection nice. Recovered 50 ft. from pad with wadding still in tube. No damage! Great!
10-03-2004 Andy Turits Est SU A8-3 Apogee - Perfect Gusty - Perfect again. No strange noise this time. Perfect chute deployment at apogee. appreciate the longer shock cord.recovery wadding ejected this time. Soft landing about 50 ft. from pad.
02-13-2005 Andy Turits Est SU A8-3 Just Before 0-5 mph winds - Straight up boost with a little wiggle at the start to less than 200 ft. Parachute deployed fine. Nice flight. This rocket needs more motor.
02-13-2005 Andy Turits Est SU B6-4 Apogee - Perfect 0-5 mph winds - Perfect flight to about 350 ft. Not affected by low speed gusts. Good delay. Parachute deployed fine and flight lasted about 42 seconds. No damage. Tube fins prove to be good choice for frozen ground landings.
07-03-2005 Andy Turits Est SU A8-3 Apogee - NC Up Light winds - Straight and true to about 150 feet. Chute didn't quite deploy but no damage on landing
07-03-2005 Andy Turits Est SU B6-4 Apogee - Perfect Light winds - Another nice flight to about 300 feet. A Shroud line separated so the chute kind of spun on the way down. No damage. The Long Overdue is very durable.
08-06-2005 Andy Turits Est SU B6-4 Apogee - Perfect Light winds - Another fine flight from this reliable rocket. No surprises. swift lift off, possibly one gentle spin to apogee.Altitude about 400 feet. Landed fine about 200 feet from the pad.
11-18-2005 Andy Turits Est SU B4-2 Just Before Light winds - Straight boost to about 250 feet with less than one rotation to apogee. Chute failed to open fully (40 degrees farenheit) but slowed the light on it's feet bird so no damage at all from horizontal landing.
07-03-2006 Andy Turits Est SU A8-3 Apogee - Perfect 0-5 mph winds - Old reliable turns in a perfect flight to about 250 feet. Stock chute deploys perfectly.
07-03-2006 Andy Turits Est SU B6-4 Apogee - Perfect 0-5 mph winds - This graceful tube finned rocket never disappoints. About 400 ft. altitude..perfect recovery on stock chute...200 feet from pad at most.
   

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