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REV 2.4 - Mon Aug 16 11:49:14 2010

BSD
Diablo
P.O. Box 121
Touchet, WA 99360
(509) 525-4461
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SPECS: 33" x 4" - 34.5 oz
ROCKSIM FILE: Right Click to Download
SpaceCAD FILE: MISSING - please submit here
REC'D MOTORS: 29mm G80, G64, H128 ; 38mm H123, I154, I161

[Picture](05/25/00) Recently BSD High Power Rocketry has started selling kits again and although they are a new name, they are not new to rocketry. BSD is run by Scott Binder who initially designed all of the Binder Design kits. So, now operating under BSD High Power Rocketry, Scott is offering several kits but one in particular caught my eye. The Diablo. It is what I call a "stubby" rocket, having less than a 10:1 length to diameter ratio. In the Diablo's case it is 8.25:1 being 33" in length and 4" in diameter.

See my 4" Stubby Rocket Comparison Page

The looks of the Diablo also caught my eye, being a short rocket, using three fins and the finish as displayed on BSD's website. Even though I noticed the finish, I never expected to get the decals displayed because many high power kits just don't come with decals. So this is a major positive for BSD's Diablo, because quite frankly the decals are what differentiate it from the looks of any other 3FNC rocket out there.

Rocket PicRocket PicThe Diablo includes a 17" long paper (LOC Style) glassine coated airframe. It is pre-marked for the three fin slots and the 1/2" launch lug. The plastic nose cone makes up the remaining length. There are three (3) 3/16" thick plywood fins that are pre-cut. There are also two (2) 1/8" thick composite centering rings (very smooth on one side and very rough on the other). The motor mount is 38mm and 8" in length. The recovery system consists of a 1/4" eye-bolt and a Quick Link that is combined with a 4-foot 1" wide nylon shock cord strap and a 10-foot 1" wide elastic shock cord. Lastly a 30" blue nylon parachute is added. Also included are 4 sheets of decals!


CONSTRUCTION:

InstructionsBSD is trying to draw attention to their "best instructions available", so I should comment on those first. Other high power kits that I have built have had minimal, but usually adequate, instructions but were clearly written for individuals with quite a bit of experience. So, by initial comparison, BSD has put together a nice instruction booklet. Eight (8) pages of fully illustrated and photo-illustrated instructions taking the builder from an inventory to flying. They are well written and include helpful hints that can be applied to building any future rocket. Some of the hints cover successful airframe cutting for the fin slots, protecting your Fin Alignment Guide from glues, using fillers in fin fillets.

Each instruction step is clear and there are associate photo-illustrations to help "see" what is expected. This approach will allow even those with little experience to build the kit. The kit could be built by someone with just a couple of Estes' kits under their belts in my opinion. The instructions even "walk" you through the finishing steps thoroughly.

The motor mount is assembled using the two composite centering rings (I put the smooth side out). The upper centering ring is used to mount the 1/4" Eye-Bolt. The nylon shock cord strap is attached to the Eye-bolt using a Quick-Link. I drilled two holes in the lower centering ring to insert two t-nuts for motor retention later. I had to add a small spacer to keep the t-nuts flush with the exposed side of the centering ring.

Having to cut the fin slots into the airframe is always "extra" work, however, with the paper airframe it is not too bad. BSD had the lines pre-drawn so you just have to follow them. Once these are cut the fins are through-the-wall mounting and go all the way to the 38mm motor mount.

The cuts of the wood components were excellent. Perfect match for the three fins. The centering rings required very little sanding for a nice fit inside the airframe.

Rocket PicI replaced the the 1/2" launch lug with two 1/4" launch lugs (the instructions say to use at least a 3/8" rod). The two 1/4" launch lugs I used were from Budget Rocketry. They are plastic launch lugs with 45° cuts on both side and a slightly flattened back to allow for better adhesion. One nice thing about them, is even after the priming and painting they still accepted a 1/4" rod without having to clean out all of the over-spray.

One interesting little item that was noticed during the build of this rocket, was that the fins never lined up correctly according to the provided fin alignment guide. The issue was discovered that the pre-marked fin lines on the tube were about off on one fin. I noted that two seem to be 4 1/8" apart and then one was 4 3/8". No one can tell by eye, but when trying to line up two of the fins the third fin never hit the mark. Of course, I discovered this after I had cut the fin slots. I notified BSD and they assured me it would be addressed immediately.

For finishing, I didn't use anything to fill the spirals, nor did the instructions indicate it was needed. In fact, this tubing really doesn't have deep spirals at all. Therefore, I was successful in using several coats of Plasti-Kote Sandable Primer. The instructions are again very thorough in describing how to finish the rocket with several coats of primer, sanding, wiping down with a tack cloth and painting with light coats. I did one very heavy coat of primer and then focused on the spirals with a coat only aimed at the spirals. After sanding down the body was ready.

I used my normal method for finishing plastic nose cones which involves sanding with 150 grit sand paper until all shine is removed. The hitting it with a heavy coat of Plasti-Kote Primer to fill in all the scratches I made. I use several thick coats directly on the nose cone seam and then sand it back until the seam is filled. Once the seam is filled I change over to a 340-400 grit paper. I have never had nose cone paint chipping issues using this technique.

I picked a Rustoleum Metallic paint. Copper! It came out very nice (to me).

I then applied the provided decals. I must admit this was the toughest part of building this rocket. They are self-adhesive vinyl. There was a silver, black and maroon strip, black DIABLO lettering and silver BSD lettering. In addition, there was silver, black and maroon fin decals.

The most trouble I had was lining up the strips since they come in two pieces and are to overlap where they meet. It was challenging to keep them evenly spaced and I would like another chance at it, but once these decals are down, they are down for good. Another little difference was how my fin decals had to go on. Although similar in looks, they did not match the picture. I even had to cut the bottom of the silver ones to match the angle of the fins.

After the decals were complete, I hit the entire rocket with coat of Rustoleum Clear Coat.

All in all, despite my minor difficulties in striving for perfection with the decals, I have a very nice looking rocket!

Overall, for CONSTRUCTION I would rate this kit 4 ½ points. Instructions are indeed excellent as advertised. The components are of good quality. A solid recovery system and most important for that distinguishing look . . . decals.

FLIGHT/RECOVERY:

Download RockSim file here! This file is set up with a 29mm adapter. Remove it to use as a 38mm kit. The weight is setup for with the 29mm adapter.

RockSim PicBSD indicates that the Diablo can be flown on as little as an F25, but recommends a G35 for the first flight. It also recommends the following 29mm motors: G80T, G64W, H128W, H180W and the following 38mm motors: H123W, I154J, I161W and I211W. Here are the altitudes that Apogee's RockSim says it will get. Simulations are based on the actual weight of my finished Diablo which was 34½ ounces. BSD indicates that the finished and ready to fly weight is between 28 to 48 ounces.

Rocket PicFor my first flight I choose an EconoJet G35-4. After making a 29mm adapter and prepping a motor retention clip I was ready.

The instructions indicate how to pack a chute and also suggest wadding material. I used a Large Pratt Hobbies Nomex® Heat Shield which fit perfectly. I attached it about 10" above the body tube on the nylon strap. Most of the shock cord and parachute fit within the Heat Shield fully protecting them!


Rocket PicAfter testing the field out with a couple of smaller rockets, I set up the Diablo for her maiden voyage.
5, 4, 3, 2, 1 . . . roar! Nice and loud EconoJets!

It was a relatively slow lift off and a nice and straight flight. She still had a bit of steam left upon ejection but it was a good match. The parachute deployed quickly and she descended. Descent rate was on the slower side but still good. It looked like it was going into a tree but missed, only to hit pretty hard on the edge of the road. The brunt of impact was taken by the EconoJet thankfully. It was chipped and cracked, but no damage to the Diablo except for a couple of small paint chips at the bottom edge.

So, that was great fun, let's use the other G35 in the EconoJet pack! Re-Prepped and started the countdown . . . 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. No roar this time, just one big POP!

The motor blew apart sending the nozzle somewhere and also cracked the motor at the propellant and delay charge.

No damage to the rocket, but no second flight for the day either.

For FLIGHT/RECOVERY, I would rate this kit 5 points. This is only based off of one flight, however, it was super straight and recovery was perfect. I will fly her again on G's and once I find a bit larger field, I have an H128 with Diablo's name on it! After those flights, if I feel any different about flight and recovery, I'll update the review.

UPDATE: Well, I was able to put the Diablo up again. This time on a G64-7. This motor is a good match for this rocket! Excellent "straight-as-an-arrow" boost, with a picture perfect ejection at absolute apogee. It was wonderful! Flight hit the 1000 foot mark. I reefed the parachute to ensure a faster descent this time. The rocket landed in a very shallow stream, but I was there within seconds to retrieve it. No damage.

Overall, the Diablo is a very nice "stubby" rocket that is built with good quality of parts and truly has some of the "best instructions available". I would recommend this as an excellent Level I certification kit because even on an H128 she will only fly to about 1500 feet. One can certainly enjoy the entire flight at that altitude. My level 1 certification went to nearly 3000 feet and that was just too high for me to enjoy the entire flight (as you can tell, I'm not an altitude junky, I like to stay under that 2K ceiling). I give the kit an OVERALL rating of 5 points.

We now include our own motor retention system in the Diablo kit at no extra charge! The system is essentially two T-nuts that are built into the aft centering ring during initial construction. Two 6-32 bolts hold two clips that retain the motor casing in the rocket. Can be retro-fitted to already built models, too! Great review, thanks! - Scott Binder (BSD High Power Rocketry)


Rating
(by Mark A Brown - 11/20/01)

Rocket PicBrief:
The BSD Diablo is a short, fat, 3 finned rocket with a wicked look. With its 38mm motor mount, it definitely is designed for HPR. However, with a 29mm adapter this rocket can be flown on some G motors without any problems due to its relatively low weight.

Construction:
The kit has relatively few parts. They include: a 17" LOC style body tube, a 20" nose cone (4" is shoulder), three 3/16" plywood fins, two 1/8 plywood centering rings, one 1/2" paper launch lug, one 8" long 38mm motor mount tube, one 1/4" eye bolt with washers and nut, one 3/16" quick link, one 30" parachute, one 4' long, 1" wide, grommeted nylon strap, one 10' long, 1" wide elastic shock cord, and a motor retention system that consists of two T-nuts, two 6-32 hex head bolts, and two metal clips. I also purchased BSD's 29mm adapter with my kit.

FinsThis is a fantastic, easy kit to build. In fact, I had to consciously slow myself down because it is so easy to follow the excellent instructions and assemble the excellent components that I found myself getting too far ahead of where I should have been. All of the components fit together well with only a little sanding of the centering rings. When I received my kit, the body tube was not marked with the fin alignment lines or the launch lug line. However, a quick email to Scott Binder at BSD and the problem was resolved. Scott sent me a new body tube that had been marked and threw in a 4" bulkhead assembly in addition. Now that's great customer service! Having to cut the fin slots yourself is a little tedious but, not a big deal.

BottomI deviated from the instructions in a few ways. First, when building the motor mount, I didn't secure the rear centering ring. I did this because instead of creating internal fillets with epoxy I used 2-part expanding foam to fill the fin can. Second, after epoxying the forward centering ring and motor mount tube in, I dry fitted the fins. With the fins in place, I drew a pencil line on the fins along the outside body tube joint. Thus, when I removed the fins, I had how much of the fin would be inside the body tube. I then drilled a 5/8" hole in the center of the fin root. This hole is to allow the expanding foam to flow through the fin root and lock it into the fin can. I then epoxied the fins to the motor mount. Three 1 ounce applications of 2-part foam filled the fin can. After cleaning/shaping the foam on the rear of the fin can, the rear centering ring was attached with epoxy.

My only complaint about the construction is that the motor retention comes with a separate set of instructions. If you don't read those instructions first, you won't notice the bold warning that you should install the retention hardware before assembly! Luckily, I was able to still attach the hardware after assembly.

Finishing:
Since I was planning on using this rocket for my Tripoli Level 1 certification, I glassed the entire airframe using 2 ounce fiberglass cloth and 30 minute slow-cure epoxy. After glassing, fillets were added to the fin/body joints and along the launch lug using 30 minute epoxy and micro-balloon filler. Some sanding with 80 grit sandpaper and it was ready for some primer. I used Rustoleum gray automotive sandable primer. This primer is nice because it fills a lot of the imperfections. Sand, prime, sand, prime. You know the drill. I also used some Elmer's sandable wood filler putty to fill some of the larger imperfections. Eight coats of primer later, ready for color coat. I chose Rustoleum Safety Red. Two coats of color and then the decals. The decals were definitely the hardest part. The decals are beautiful but, they're long, skinny, and very sticky. A friend of mine suggested that I dip them in water with dishwashing liquid to allow me to slide the decals in place. I was too chicken to try though. The decals turned out OK but it takes a lot of patience. After decals, I shot it with 2 coats of Rustoleum clear enamel.

Construction Rating: 4 ½ out of 5

Post RecoveryFlight:
The Diablo's first flight was to be my Level 1 certification flight. I had an H128W lined up for my 29/180 casing. The clips provided with the motor retention kit wouldn't fit with the 29mm adapter so, I had to fashion some new clips out of some flat brass stock. When I arrived at the launch site to pick up my motor, there was no H128 to be found! Thankfully, the vendor had some H165 Redline motors that would do just fine. I used a Top Flight Kevlar® chute protector and shock cord protector instead of wadding. The H165 was prepped with a 10 second delay and placed on a 3/8" launch rod. That Redline will move fast! It boosted straight up to probably just over 2000 feet. It was a beautiful launch.!

Recovery:
I tied loops into both ends of the elastic shock cord and one loop about 1/4 from one end. These loops were used to attach the elastic to the nylon strap, the nose cone, and the parachute using quick links. I also included a swivel to keep the chute shroud lines from tangling. The recovery system worked great. The descent was a bit fast but, that's probably because my rocket is towards the upper end of BSD's expected weight. A bit larger chute could solve this but, I'm happy with the faster descent. The glassing that I did makes it able to withstand a rougher landing and I get less wind drift this way.

Flight Rating: 5 out of 5

Summary:
I love this rocket. The main pro's are it's ease of building, the clear instructions, and the tremendous customer support that you get from BSD. The main con's are the separate instructions for motor retention and the retention system's inability to accommodate the 29mm adapter.

Overall Rating: 5 out of 5

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GUEST's OPINION:
05/02 - "The Diablo is a tough little rocket. I built it stock and it shows no real sign of wear. On my first Level 1 Cert. attempt, the parachute got tangles and did not open. The Diablo survived the fall with out any problems. The is a great value for the money." (M.S.W.)

GUEST's OPINION:
01/02 - "The BSD Diablo review is helpful but motor retention of this rocket can even be made with tape. I've flown the Diablo with tape retention with no problems over and over again. The BSD Diablo rocks! You don't even have to be a painting expert to make this rocket look great since the vinyl graphics that come with the kit will make anyone look like a finishing PRO. Simply paint this rocket white (as shown on the BSD web page) and apply the vinyl graphics. Folks on the range will think you've been finishing rockets for years! I've liked the BSD Diablo so much I now have built three of them and drag race them all the time at our launches. See two of my Diablo's on the August 2001 Cover of Extreme Rocketry Magazine drag racing with another owner of a Diablo! The Diablo can be flown on a G64W all the way up to a J350 (honestly). Thanks BSD for this cool rocket kit! A great design, great flyer, cool vinyl decals, and at a very reasonable price!" (C.P.C.)

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Date Name Motor Ejection/
Altitude
Wind Notes
06-05-2004 Jack Caynon AT RMS G64-4 Apogee - Perfect 5-10 mph winds - Nice straight up and beautiful flight. Reached apogee and ejected chute. Beautiful recovery.
06-05-2004 Jack Caynon AT RMS G75-10 Very Late 5-10 mph winds - Bad motor for a PML Quantum Tubing based Diablo! It's surprisingly underpowered--rocket arced almost immediately after launch and never gained a lot of altitude. Chute deployed only 150 feet above ground! This rocket's too heavy for low thrust motors.
06-05-2004 Jack Caynon AT SU F50-4 Just Past (1-2sec)
(550 ft)
5-10 mph winds - Maiden flight of Diablo with PML Quantum Tubing. Low flight landed near launch rail but everything worked fine. F50 gave it good kick to get it high enough for decent descent on 36 chute.
06-05-2004 Jack Caynon AT SU G80-7 Apogee - NC Up 5-10 mph winds - Snapped off launch pad, Went to a thousand feet or so. Nice deployment, but, unfortunately, landed on an aircraft runway. One plywood fintip was badly damaged even after a large chute was used and badly needs repair.
06-13-2004 Jack Caynon AT RMS H128-6 Apogee - Perfect Calm Quantum Diablo - Rocketed off the pad, got around 1000 feet or so, then deployed chute and drifted down to land 10 feet away from me. Nice flight, nice recovery; however a small ding on the edge of another plywood fin.
07-30-2005 Jack Caynon Ces RLD H143-10 Apogee - Perfect 0-5 mph winds PML Quantum Tubing Diablo - Excellent motor for this rocket. Flew straight and high, then recovered beautifully on a 48 inch Spherachute.
05-21-2000 EMRR AT EconoJet G35-4 Apogee - NC Up Light winds - Relatively slow lift off and a nice and straight flight. Descent took it just over some trees to impact on the edge of the road. No damage.
05-21-2000 EMRR AT EconoJet G35-4 None - CATO Light winds - POP goes the motor. Nozzle took off, motor also broke at delay to propellant interface.
05-29-2000 EMRR AT RMS G64-7 Apogee - Perfect Calm - This motor/rocket combination are perfect. A 1100 foot flight according to RockSim. I reefed the chute to cause a faster descent. Everything recovered.
07-24-2000 EMRR AT EconoJet G38-4 Apogee - NC Up Calm - A lot of black smoke but didn't seem as throaty as the other EconoJets. Was still going up but very close to apogee.
07-24-2000 EMRR AT RMS G64-4 Apogee - NC Down Calm - Nice straight up and beautiful flight. Was just past apogee where the NC was pointing down. Good recovery.
09-30-2000 EMRR AT SU G80-7 Just Past (1-2sec) 5-10 mph winds - This would have been better on a 4. Added a 29mm using Budget Rocketry's retainer. Nice flight and recovery. G80 gets this boy moving.
11-18-2000 EMRR AT RMS G64-4 Apogee - Perfect 5-10 mph winds - Perfect flight all the way!
05-13-2001 EMRR AT RMS F52-5 Apogee - NC Down Calm - Excellent motor for the small field. First use of my BlackSky rail too. Excellent (oh, I said that) until the ejection. NC out, but parachute stayed in. Crash, but no real damage.
05-20-2001 EMRR AT RMS F52-5 Apogee - Perfect Calm - When it came off the launch rail is took a slight angle, but arched and ejected at apogee. Came down fast . . . hmmm
08-07-2001 EMRR AT SU G40-4 Apogee - NC Down 10+ mph winds - Slight weathercock, but nice flight until ejection. Nylon shock tether snapped sending the nose cone and parachute to land by themselves and the body to fall smartly on its own. All repairable.
11-22-2001 EMRR AT RMS F52-5 Very Early Calm - After replacing the shock tether with Kevlar. Excellent straight up launch and while it still had a good head of steam the ejection charge fired. Seemed very short! No damage.
08-24-2002 EMRR AT RMS F52-5 Apogee - NC Down Gusty - Good flight. A lot of movement with the wind gusts. Upon ejection the parachute stayed in the rocket until about 30 feet off the ground. No damage.
11-28-2002 EMRR AT RMS F52-5 Apogee - Perfect Calm - A great flight with snow and 26 degrees. Tested out my new 24 B2 SkyAngle parachute. It worked!
10-11-2003 EMRR AT RMS G33-5 Just Past (1-2sec) Calm - Nice black smoke lift-off and flight. The 5 second delay is just too long for this G33 motor and rocket. No damage though.
08-14-2004 EMRR AT RMS G64-7 Very Early 0-5 mph winds - Great launch. Oops, something happened and the ejection fired very, very early. No damage.
07-31-2007 EMRR AT RMS H165-M Just Before 5-10 mph winds Event: NARAM-49
- Nice red flame (caught on NARAMLIVE website for Tuesday). Fast off the pad, turned into wind, and ejected a bit early... still had a good head of steam. Recovered fine.
07-31-2007 EMRR AT RMS H128-M Apogee - Perfect 5-10 mph winds Event: NARAM-49
- Awesome flight on the ol' Diablo. Did you see my dad's pic in the Launch magazine holding MY Diablo upon recovery? He didn't even fly that day!
03-30-2002 Grant Gibson AT EconoJet G35-4 Didn't See 5-10 mph winds - Brilliant Maiden flight, went up to around 2200 ft. Lost sight of her for a bit then the 'chute deployed perfectly, landing it about 500 ft away, and that was in windy conditions. Recommend to anyone.
03-26-2005 Andrew Grippo Ces RLD G69-9 Very Late 5-10 mph winds Event: SOLAR Monthly Launch
- Unstable flight, rocket pinwheeled all over the sky. Need to add nose cone weight prior to next launch. Broke fin when rocket hit the ground. Repairable for another flight.
05-14-2005 Andrew Grippo Ces RLD H153-10 Apogee - NC Down 10+ mph winds Event: Southern Thunder 2005
- Excellent flight after a tough maiden flight. Spent a long time looking for the rocket after a long drift and fortunately it was returned by another flyer.
05-28-2005 Andrew Grippo Ces RLD H153-10 Apogee - NC Down 0-5 mph winds Event: Jim Turner Memorial Launch
- A little wobble right at the beginning of the flight then straight as an arrow. Very good height and pretty close recovery without damage.
11-12-2005 Andrew Grippo AT RMS I154-10 Apogee - NC Down 10+ mph winds Event: High Cotton
- Good flight and good delay with deployment at apogee. Chute hung up with kevlar cloth but no damage to rocket when rocket landed.
03-04-2006 Andrew Grippo AT RMS I357-10 Apogee - NC Down 5-10 mph winds Event: High Cotton
- Good boost and recovery. No damage
06-14-2009 Andrew Grippo AT RMS I366-14 Apogee - Perfect 5-10 mph winds Event: Brunnell Half Blast
- This motor kicked the Diablo in the butt. Good combination motor and delay.
04-03-2004 Chase Hrncir AT RMS H180-10 Didn't Record 5-10 mph winds - Nice flight! This rocket is great for L1 cert. Cert Flight: L1
08-14-2004 Chase Hrncir Ces RLD G69-9 Didn't See 5-10 mph winds Event: Challenger 498 Club Launch
- Great boost, but nylon strap broke. Nose cone recovered under parachute, booster tumbled to hard ground, no damage.
12-11-2004 Chase Hrncir Ces RLD G69-9 Apogee - NC Down 5-10 mph winds Event: STARS 672 Texas Winter Regional/Challenger Club Launch
- Great flight, close recovery.
01-01-2005 Chase Hrncir Ces RLD H153-12 Didn't Record 5-10 mph winds Event: Alpha Ranch
- Great flight, until it landed in the highest tree there. Took a while to convince it to come down out of there...tough little rocket, ready for more.
06-28-2003 Matt Vennard AT RMS H180-10 Just Past (1-2sec) Calm - Lvl 1 cert flight (Whitakers)- Very quick off the rail. 10sec a bit long, but all thought 6 would be too short. Anyway, recovered in cornfield across the road for successful Level 1!! wRASP shows 1600Ft. Cert Flight: L1
08-02-2003 Matt Vennard AT RMS G64-7 Very Late 5-10 mph winds - Great motor for this rocket..powerful boost to a decent height, but 7 second delay is waaay to long. Produced a few Uh-oh's down the flight line, but chute deployed and recovered with no trouble on stock chute.
04-25-2004 Matt Vennard AT RMS G64-4 Just Before 10+ mph winds - Good flight at Whit. Delay was barely too early, but 7 is way too long. Good recovery on stock chute, close to pad.
06-05-2004 Matt Vennard AT SU G80-4 Apogee - NC Up 5-10 mph winds - Good boost, with decent altitude. Ejection delay seemed about right, and recovered fairly close with stock chute.
   

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